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To: kabar
No, it is a way to enforce our laws.

Earth to kabar. It is an enforcement POWER not enumerated inm the Constitution.

You obviously don't know very much about e-verify.

You obviously don't know very much about the Constitution.

AZ made it mandatory (upheld by SCOTUS) and the results were dramatic.

I don't give a damn if it works. There are better ways to deal with illegals. I don't want the Federal government possessing an infrastructure capable of denying employment. What makes you think they can't change the determinant? Just attach a database of known patriots to e-Verify and VOILA! I don't want them to possess that unconstitutional power.

Do you support the use of I-9s?

No.

LOL. You are again showing your ignorance about our bankruptcy laws.

You'll gain something in our conversation once you realize that this isn't about what I don't know. It's about that I do know and don't like it a bit. The bankruptcy laws are legitimate. By Trump's dishonest manipulation of them, it's his CHARACTER that becomes at issue.

Or are you going to say "character doesn't count"? Where have I heard that before...

Do you understand why they exist and why businesses use them?

Having turned around a business on the brink of it, yes.

Yes, Trump undermines his position by allowing the "good ones" to return. But Trump never specifies the conditions for allowing them to return and in what numbers. As someone who has actually issued visas, the vast majority of the lawbreakers couldn't even qualify for a tourist visa.

LOL, and you presume to know what a huge employer of illegals thinks qualifies as "good"? Fool.

Thanks to Jeff Sessions, Trump has produced the best immigration plan of any candidate in my memory.

Words he can rescind on a whim, just like his promises to pay his creditors. See: "CHARACTER." You know what that means, don't you?

No, you don't. You think a lifelong Democrat changes his stripes in one meeting. Yet you ignore the signs of truth leaking from the Donald's lips. All you really have is wishful thinking for which you'll sell out a lifetime of consistency for what you want to hear.

39 posted on 09/10/2015 9:58:39 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Dupes for Donald, Chumps for Trump)
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To: Carry_Okie
Earth to kabar. It is an enforcement POWER not enumerated in the Constitution.

Earth to Carry_Okie. You are ignoring reality. It is being enforced now and it has not been ruled unconstitutional. In fact SCOTUS ruled in favcr of AZ, which made e-verify mandatory.

You obviously don't know very much about the Constitution.

You are living in a fantasy world if you choose to ignore the reality of our existing laws. There is nothing in the Constitution about SS, Medicare, Medicaid, Obamacart, gay marriage, abortion, etc. You can dismiss them by saying they are not in the Constitution, yet I bet you pay your FICA payments.

I don't give a damn if it works. There are better ways to deal with illegals. I don't want the Federal government possessing an infrastructure capable of denying employment. What makes you think they can't change the determinant? Just attach a database of known patriots to e-Verify and VOILA! I don't want them to possess that unconstitutional power.

It is illegal to hire illegal aliens and it is illegal for them to work. The Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 (IRCA) required employers to verify that all newly hired employees present "facially valid" documentation verifying the employee's identity and legal authorization to accept employment in the United States.

The I-9 form or more properly the Employment Eligibility Verification Form is provided by the federal government for that purpose. Every employee hired after November 6, 1986 must complete an I-9 form at the time of hire. Employees must complete Section 1 of the form at the actual beginning of employment. The employer must complete Section 2 within three days of starting work.[1] The employer is responsible for ensuring that the forms are completed properly, and in a timely manner. The I-9 is not required for unpaid volunteers or for contractors.[1] However, a company could still find itself liable if it contracts work to a company knowing that the contractor employs unauthorized workers.

E-verify is intended to prevent I-9 fraud. It also protects the employer. Once an employee goes thru e-verify, a response that takes seconds, then the employer is off the hook should it be learned that the employee is here illegally. Why shouldn't an employer use a verification system that prevents illegal aliens from taking American jobs? We should be shutting off the job magnet to reduce the flood of illegal aliens.

Are you against leveraging state and local law enforcement to check on the immigration status of some one they arrest for a crime?

What is your better way of preventing illegal aliens or in some cases, legal aliens, from working illegally in the US? Are you a Libertarian? You sure sound like one.

You'll gain something in our conversation once you realize that this isn't about what I don't know. It's about that I do know and don't like it a bit. The bankruptcy laws are legitimate. By Trump's dishonest manipulation of them, it's his CHARACTER that becomes at issue.

LOL. You make allegations without providing the facts of exactly what Trump did dishonestly and how he manipulated the bankruptcy laws. If it was dishonest, why wasn't he charged with a crime? You are engaged in CHARACTER ASSASINATION.

LOL, and you presume to know what a huge employer of illegals thinks qualifies as "good"? Fool.?

There you go again making baseless allegations. What facts do you have that Trump is a "huge employer of illegals?" And what is laughable is that you are the guy who doesn't want I-9s or e-verify because you don't believe it is the responsibility of the employer.

It really doesn't matter how Trump defines "good" because as President, he would be enforcing the laws, not making them. Read the Constitution. Congress would have to pass immigration reforms including any eligibility requirements for deported aliens to apply for return. Illegal aliens have committed multiple crimes beyond illegal entry, e.g., identity theft, tax evasion, working illegally, lying on employment forms, misusing or stealing SSNs, etc. Many of these are felonies.

Words he can rescind on a whim, just like his promises to pay his creditors. See: "CHARACTER." You know what that means, don't you?

So can any of the other candidates. They lie to us all of the time. Trump has more character than the drunken, low-lives that roam the halls of Congress sucking at the taxpayers' teat.

No, you don't. You think a lifelong Democrat changes his stripes in one meeting. Yet you ignore the signs of truth leaking from the Donald's lips. All you really have is wishful thinking for which you'll sell out a lifetime of consistency for what you want to hear.

Trump was not a lifelong Democrat any more than Reagan was. You are the one engaged in wishful thinking. Trump has never held elective office. He has not sold his soul to corporate paymasters. Do you hold your nose every time to vote for the lesser of two evils? Where has consistency gotten us?

We have a GOP controlled Congress that has surrendered to Obama after all kinds of promises to get elected or reelected. The Iran Deal is just the latest sellout. If it is as big a threat to national security as the Reps all say, then why are they not taking extraordinary measures to stop it including using the power of the purse, changing the rules of the Senate like Reid did to get the confirmations they wanted, etc.

44 posted on 09/10/2015 2:00:17 PM PDT by kabar
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