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To: imardmd1

[[Are you at all confused about these terms?]]

I’m not confused, I know what God’s word has to say about the issue- There’s nothing to clarify- do you believe there are carnal Christians- Christians who live In sin? Who don’t obey God? Simple question- and an important one-


184 posted on 09/12/2015 12:23:53 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Bob434
Actually, you don't know what God's word has to say about this issue, nor what the Apostles' doctrine is on this issue, nor what reliable commentators have to say about this issue.

There are different ways of using "carnal" in the Bible text, depending on the context, and you refuse to define what you mean by it. Similarly, we use "Christian" in different ways, but you've not been willing to define which kind of "Christian" you mean. But here are the consequences of one who professes to be "Cristian" but refuses to live like one:

Heb 10:30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
Heb 10:31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
. . . . .
Heb 12:7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
Heb 12:8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

God and Jesus hate sin. Jesus broke the power of the Sin principle over His disciples by the agony of shedding His Blood and suffering our punishment on the Cross. He knows that they now have the power to refuse to continue old habits. When they don't, they can count on immediate chastening from the Father to rid them of it. If you n notice professing "Christians" who are living disgraceful lives, but are not being chastised, you can pretty much cont that they are not children of God.

Here's the way God's people live:

Ps. 128:1 Blessed is every one that feareth the LORD; that walketh in his ways.

Here's the way that they think:

Job 28:28 And unto man he said, Behold, the fear of the Lord, that is wisdom; and to depart from evil is understanding

The fear of the LORD is to dread to disappoint or disobey Him. Nobody takes pleasure in disappointing or disobeying the loved one, the one who loves you.

Prov. 8:13 The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.

Now, what kind of "carnal Christian" were you talking about? You can't be both carnal and spiritual at the same time, can you?

187 posted on 09/12/2015 3:24:20 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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