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To: D-fendr

[[They can believe, they can think they believe, wish they believed, they can stop believing; they can accept and then reject; trust and then no longer trust; bless and later curse.]]

Thank God that God doesn’t change- and when He said eternally saved, he meant it, even when people change their minds after salvation

[[“But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.”]]

That is talking aobut the end times tribulation suffering, not losing salvation- this verse, and the others like it, are all talking aobut the promise of persevering -

Paul and the other desciples all spoke to carnal Chriatians and made it clear that these people were still Christians, and had they died that day, they were going to heaven- He didn’t tell them to ‘endure till the end or lose their salvation- he made it clear, that even In their backslidden condition they were still Christians- He did however encourage them to get their lives straightened out-


140 posted on 09/09/2015 3:19:13 PM PDT by Bob434
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141 posted on 09/09/2015 3:20:51 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Bob434
Thank God that God doesn’t change- even when people change their minds after salvation

No matter what they change their minds to? Satanism?

To me this is obviously wrong theology and wrong scripturally. I think if we are this far apart, I have to say let's leave it at this: that we disagree.

Thanks very much for your courtesy and discussion.

146 posted on 09/09/2015 9:49:00 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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