Posted on 09/08/2015 6:08:48 AM PDT by shortstop
This refugee thing doesn't make sense.
Hundreds of thousands of people, supposedly pushed out of Syria and Afghanistan by war, are swarming into Europe and demanding asylum.
We have seen riots, and a drowned little boy, and cheering crowds of welcome.
It is an interesting and historic spectacle, but I don't think we understand much about it. And I don't think we're asking enough questions, or grasping all of the consequences.
So let's talk about it.
First, if there is a true refugee problem, it's pretty likely the last six or seven years of American foreign policy are primarily to blame. It is American escalation that has destabilized Afghanistan and it was American indifference that melted down Syria. Whether we were drawing red lines in the sand, or moving troops in or out, what we failed to do was stabilize either Syria or Afghanistan.
And don't ask what our precipitous withdrawal from Iraq did.
If indeed these people are being pushed from Syria and Afghanistan because of the disruption of war, no nation had greater capacity to prevent that dislocation than the United States.
Translation: These are Obama's refugees.
Another unanswered question in all this is: Why now?
Both Syria and Afghanistan have been war wracked for some time. Both nations have faced their own respective heartache, with the devastation in Syria most comprehensible to westerners.
But why have these two oppressive nations now simultaneously and surprisingly decided to allow these refugees out? It seems clear the Muslim Middle East has opened its door and a flood of folks are pouring out.
It's only natural to wonder why.
And why now.
I also think it's fair to wonder if this mass of humanity is exclusively the sympathetic refugees shown on the evening news. Both Syria and Afghanistan have been home to dangerous, international jihad groups, and the possibility that the Islamic State and Taliban or Al Qaida vestiges have sent terrorists into Europe with the refugees seems pretty high.
The refugees also seem to have a high expectation of services and accommodations, almost an entitlement. Refugees have held protests and demonstrations in Greece, demanding a faster and more efficient registration system. It seems odd that folks who have shown up and thrown themselves on the taxpayers of Greece would be so critical of their hosts.
Further, it is clear that the motive for the influx is more than just safety and peace. Safety and peace can be found in any European country. The religious freedom of these people would be respected in any nation of Europe, and they would be protected like any other person. If refuge and escape were the motivation, any nation in Europe would do.
But not any nation in Europe will do, it seems.
Refugees all want to go to Germany.
Period.
Sad tales of people dying in trucks and by other means have all been people who had already found safety in Europe, but were looking for something different in Germany.
That something different might be money.
Germany is the richest nation in Europe and has the most generous welfare benefits.
And that's where the refugees want to go.
There is also the unspoken fact of Islamifacation. Europe isn't quite Europe anymore, and the percentage of non-assimilitated Muslims across the continent is soaring. In some nations, this has led to friction and opened the door to Muslim terrorism.
With these hundreds of thousands of new refugees, a broad, blanket immigration has been granted to people whose religion has been antagonistic to Europe's Christianity and western democracy. And while the Syrians have some foundation in modernity, the Afghans streaming in mostly have no taste or capacity for the lifestyle and values of the Judeo-Christian world.
It is fair to ask what this influx of young, vital Muslims does to a continent whose society and Christianity have grown moribund.
There is also cost. And though it will leap quickly into the billions, it may be the least of society's concerns. Most European nations seem intent on helping these people along their journey and in their ultimate new homes. Many regular European citizens have shown up with clothes and food, as well as welcoming and open hearts. It seems likely that if legitimate avenues of charity open up, Americans will join Europeans in their generosity to these displaced people.
The principle is horrifying.
Every parent watching on the news imagines what would happen if such disruption came to his or her home. The terror and dislocation of war are not lessened because they have not been lived. The world wants these people to be taken care of.
And they will be.
But there a lot of unanswered questions.
And it would be good to answer those questions before more time passes or more consequences unfurl.
Because, right now, a lot of this refugee thing doesn't make sense.
“..huge wave here in August and September 2015 Anyone have in insights?”
I think it’s due to the fact that over the last year, these poor people are seeing what ISIS and the Taliban are doing via social media, and it’s scaring the hell out of them.
The MSM is not reporting the ongoing rise of ISIS and the rapidly desatbilizing situation in the ME as it hurts Hillary, Obama and the Dims.
This whole situation certainly is a direct result of Obama/Hillary ME policy. And when the media do report it, it’s like it just happened in a vaccuum: “Uh, we don’t know how this started”.
It’s now like Benghazi and the emails, Hillary can’t control it. I think it’s going to get worse over the next year, and we’ll have the biggest GOP landslide victory ever. Probably Trump, if they don’t kill him.
Some business people believe the automation angle. They are still ten years away from the idea of allowing unmanned trucks to roam the autobahns and deliver goods. The technology geeks are warning them to start drafting the rules and prepare for the introduction within a decade.
The one curious study I noted from last year (German university completed it)...once any immigrant family arrived...the second generation “Germanized” and went to the one or two kid concept. The typical answer is birth control varieties at a cheap price, high taxation across the board, and a high cost of living.
So, even if 1.5 million Syrians arrive and half go back in four years after the ISIS conflict ends....the momentary plus-up doesn’t matter. Added to this, they have a huge problem in North Germany with a high number of east Europeans who arrived and aren’t productive in any form. The Germans do realize certain immigrants are worthless and others have value.
The issue isn’t their fertility. Although that’s an issue, see below.
It’s their religion.
Germany will never recover from this assault.
Just ask the Indians, Armenians and any other country that’s allowed Islam to become more than 10% of the population.
The EU elites know this.
The EU goal with this Hijrah (jihad by immigration) is the ability to create a police state.
And that study is in direct contradiction to many other ‘studies’ of the fertility of immigrants. I have to ask if the muslim immigrants were included in with the Eastern European immigrants who have far below replacement fertility themselves. Every study I’ve seen that looks specifically at Muslim immigrants in Europe finds a fertility rate of between 4 and 5.
It will be the final nail for England and a major blow to Europe when/if Charles becomes king.
“The EU goal with this Hijrah (jihad by immigration) is the ability to create a police state.”
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Yep,and Obama is just lovin’ it. He hopes we’ll be next.
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Worse yet, right now Obysmal is trying to figure out how he can cram a whole bunch of enemy combatants in here as well.
Terrorism in all western countries is about to go way up big time.
Can't see how that's a bad thing. Bringing in foreign cultures to compensate is a bad thing. We had a German exchange student many years ago who said Germany was half the size of Texas but with 5 times the population. That's far too crowded for my taste. With all the illegals in Texas, we're now at 52% Hispanic students to 29% White students.
We have refugees fleeing war torn nations of Libya, Syria, Iraq, etc. The vast majority are Muslim, though a large number of Christians are definitely fleeing ISIS too.
For the many Muslim refugees, why do we not see Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Egypt, etc, opening their arms to them?
Why is it the west that is expected to open their arms to them?
I can see the west taking in Christian refugees who have been displaced and are under threat of enslavement or death from ISIS...where those Muslim countries are not interested in them.
But the Muslim refugees should find homes in Muslim countries. If they are Sunnis, then got to Saudi Arabia and other predominantly Sunni countries. If they are Shia, then go to predominantly Shia countries.
Our own State department, and the foreign offices of places like the UK, Germany, France, etc. should insist on this.
I fear that there is much more going on here than meets the eye. There are definitely horror stories about families and little children in these masses...but I fear those stories are being used to manipulate western nations to accept hundreds of thousands of Muslim refugees who are not really interested in assimilation into western cultures.
No...I fear they are being used for one thing...and it’s an Islamic principle that dates back to the early days of Islam, when Mohammed and his followers had to leave Mecca and travel to Medina so they could escape persecution in one, and live in peace, and ultimately dominate the other.
Islam has a term for it, and it’s called “Hijrah”.
We better make sure that such an event (leaving one area to escape and go to another to ultimately dominate it) does not ever occur in the US...and Europe better wake up and smell the rose, because IMHO, they are being invaded.
Exactly!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3334268/posts
Any refugees we take won’t be Chaldean Catholics.
You know those giant mosques that have been built in the hinterland over the past decade? The ones we laughed at because there were so few Muslims in those areas? Looks like they were just planning ahead...
Exactly right.
Whew. You had me worried for a minute there!
When I first read this I thought you wrote an American journalist from Iowa, not a 10 year old kid from Iowa.
The first would undoubtedly be a one-star. The second might be a three or four-star...
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