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To: Steelfish

The Kim Davis situation really involves two separate issues. The first is the lawlessness of the Supreme Court, and whether or not their lawless decisions should be honored, and if not, what is the best way to oppose them. On this matter, Trump was wrong to concede that a Supreme Court decision, no matter how lawless, becomes the law of the land. Hopefully he will evolve on this, the more he learns about it.

The second issue is the religious freedom issue. Judging by Trump’s comments, he was not unsympathetic to Kim Davis, but he did bring up a point that I hadn’t heard before, which was that Kim Davis wouldn’t allow any of the other clerks to grant the ‘marriage’ license. This complicates the matter in that she was not only following her personal religious conscience, but was also engaging in political activism.

I don’t disagree with her on either count, but by refusing to let other clerks grant the license, she has entered the realm of political activism. I don’t say that she was wrong to do this, but it changes the situation from a woman being punished for honoring her religion, to a public official being punished for interfering with the execution of the ‘law’. Of course the ‘law’ she refused to uphold is not a legitimate law, but rather a lawless Supreme Court decision. Nevertheless, if a person doesn’t realize this, then the court’s decision to put Davis in jail for not executing the law, seems more reasonable.


92 posted on 09/04/2015 12:15:38 PM PDT by mbrfl (fightingmad)
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To: mbrfl
The second issue is the religious freedom issue. Judging by Trump’s comments, he was not unsympathetic to Kim Davis, but he did bring up a point that I hadn’t heard before, which was that Kim Davis wouldn’t allow any of the other clerks to grant the ‘marriage’ license.

You really have to read up on the whole situation to understand her position. In Kentucky, all marriage licenses must have the signature of the county clerk. The deputy clerks cannot issue the licenses without her signature. So even if the deputies were the ones to hand out the paper, it still would be here signature on the document. In her view, that makes her complicit in sin.

Now she did let the people know that they could go to another county clerk to get the license, and the county judge even offered to sign the licenses for the homosexual couples, which he could legally do. They refused. That showed that the issue was not about being able to marry, but about forcing HER to be a part of it against her will or be ruined.

123 posted on 09/04/2015 1:09:25 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: mbrfl

The Kim Davis situation really involves two separate issues. The first is the lawlessness of the Supreme Court, and whether or not their lawless decisions should be honored, and if not, what is the best way to oppose them. On this matter, Trump was wrong to concede that a Supreme Court decision, no matter how lawless, becomes the law of the land. Hopefully he will evolve on this, the more he learns about it.

The second issue is the religious freedom issue. Judging by Trump’s comments, he was not unsympathetic to Kim Davis, but he did bring up a point that I hadn’t heard before, which was that Kim Davis wouldn’t allow any of the other clerks to grant the ‘marriage’ license. This complicates the matter in that she was not only following her personal religious conscience, but was also engaging in political activism.

I don’t disagree with her on either count, but by refusing to let other clerks grant the license, she has entered the realm of political activism. I don’t say that she was wrong to do this, but it changes the situation from a woman being punished for honoring her religion, to a public official being punished for interfering with the execution of the ‘law’. Of course the ‘law’ she refused to uphold is not a legitimate law, but rather a lawless Supreme Court decision. Nevertheless, if a person doesn’t realize this, then the court’s decision to put Davis in jail for not executing the law, seems more reasonable.


Excellent!

Grade A post!

STE=Q


130 posted on 09/04/2015 3:28:39 PM PDT by STE=Q ('The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing'... Edmund Burke)
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