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To: palmer

Once again palmer you IGNORE the FACT that temperatures ALWAYS rise first, and then many many many years later CO2 rises in greater and greater amounts

[[Then it becomes a process of elimination that the 2-3 ppm rise year over year is due to mankind.]]

What I ntrhe world has that got to do with the earth ‘warming’?

you have NEVER even bothered to answer how the increase EVERY SINGLE year by man has occurred yet temps remained flat for 2 decades- IF CO2 drives hotter climates, then every one of those years during that 2 decades would have been getting steadily hotter- instead they remained flat-

you keep trying to asset cause and effect, but the facts put the lie to this tactic- ice core samples always show that temperature rise first, and then many years later- sometimes as much as 1400 years later, CO2 rises-

please tell us all how just 0.0037% of our atmosphere can can possibly trap, and then back radiate enough heat to cause rising temperatures palmer-

Nearly 100% of the heat escaping the earth blows right on past this tiny amount of CO2- but you and htose who bleeive man is causing climate change seem to think the public is so guillible that we will believe that this tiny fraction of our atmosphere has some magical heat attracting capabilities and can absorb vastly more heat than it’s own weight, and can then back radite just the right amount of heat to overwhelm the earths temps and cause a rise in temps

The reality is that this tiny maount of CO2 can NOT trap enough heat, then then back radiate it (it only back radiates a FRACTION of the heat it captures- the rest get radiated In all direction except towards earth) in aN amount large enough to cause temps to rise- when that heat gets back radiated, it is either to a COOLER earth’s surface, OR to a HOTTER earth’s surface, which mneans that in EITHER scenario, it is NOT capable of causing a rise in temperatures- I nthe cooler temps scenario, there is NOT enough heat to cause a change- in the hotter scenario, again, there’s not enough to do anything, but even if there were, it would COOL the hotter temps

I’ve asked you the above question over and over and over again and you’ve never bothered to answer it

I’ll ask one more time- How can 0.0037% of our atmosphere capture enough heat and then back radiate a fraction of that captured heat to cause global climate change?

The world, whom governments are about to fleece like never before, is waiting for a coherent answer!


99 posted on 09/02/2015 3:58:57 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: Bob434
I’ll ask one more time- How can 0.0037% of our atmosphere capture enough heat and then back radiate a fraction of that captured heat to cause global climate change?

Same way that 0.028% CO2 warmed the atmosphere before mankind was ever in the picture. And then there were the ice ages where the world cooled, then the CO2 dropped, then the world cooled some more. If you look carefully at the lag you see it is not just lag but overlap. There is no dispute that warming causes more CO2. But it only causes a little (5-10 ppm per degree C of warming). There is also no scientific dispute that CO2 causes warming. Run any simple line-by-line atmospheric column with and without CO2 and the column is much cooler without it.

The only dispute is whether an increase in CO2 from present levels will cause serious warming. The answer is no. The main reason is that the models are wrong, they presume that the warming is always amplified by increased water vapor. But water vapor is a function of the planetary weather, not temperature.

102 posted on 09/02/2015 4:17:45 PM PDT by palmer (Net "neutrality" = Obama turning the internet into FlixNet)
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