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Please read the full article before commenting. The title is meant to say that it's up to Cruz or Carson to stop Trump, whom Deace believes is not a Conservative but simply a tool of the grassroots at this point to voice their anger over a failed party.
1 posted on 08/31/2015 3:42:18 PM PDT by parksstp
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To: parksstp

Wahtever. I want Trump to keep on keeping on. We are over a year out.

Not time to get squishy and stuff. We need a winner.


2 posted on 08/31/2015 3:45:46 PM PDT by dforest
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The polls are a basic indicator at best and utterly meaningless at worst. We won’t begin seeing anything concrete till February 1st.


3 posted on 08/31/2015 3:46:38 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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Trump is verifiably not a conservative.


4 posted on 08/31/2015 3:47:55 PM PDT by GeronL (Cruz is for real, 100%)
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To: parksstp
Please read the full article before commenting.

I got lost somewhere between the Big Ten football and diarrhea of the mouth references.

5 posted on 08/31/2015 3:49:33 PM PDT by x
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This cogent article is definitely worth taking the time to read, particularly for anyone still losing sleep over Trump leading the field.
They say that courtship shows you your potential mate in his or her best light, and s/he doesn’t get any better.
We KNOW he’s got a history. We’re not married to Trump, we’re not even engaged yet.
He’s just showing us a good time, finally, after years of being treated like a red-headed step kid by the GOP, and he reminds us that we call the shots, not Uniparty ... that is, unless they are able to legitimize a 30 million strong voter bloc.
Then we will be able to say, “Adios American”.
This is a fight for our way of life.
Any one tells you any different, tell them where to go.
Go Trump.


11 posted on 08/31/2015 4:05:35 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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Cruz is my first choice, but I’ll have no problem pulling the lever for Trump if he gets the nomination.


14 posted on 08/31/2015 4:16:27 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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The conservative movement has the ability to challenge Trump head-on by offering the same game change fed-up voters are looking for, but with the conservative principles that make us Republicans in the first place also in tow.

Deace is a Cruz supporter and he also misses the critical point. What stances on the following issues do the conservative principles he mentions cause a conservative to take?

1. Securing the southern border with a wall and adequate BP.

2. Strict enforcement of all immigration laws?

3. Deportation of illegals already in the US.

4. Birthright citizenship for children born to illegals.

5. TPA, or fast track trade authority for Obama on TPP, and for later presidents on subsequent trade agreements.

6. TPP and other trade agreemnts being negotiated.

7. Surrendering bits of US sovereignty to international trade organizations.

Those are the issues that have vaulted Trump into the lead. Anyone want to tell us what the proper, principled conservative position is on those issues?

Based on what most Repubicans who claim to be conservatives have done in the past, a conservative should be in favor of all those items that Trump opposes.

These issues, and this Republican primary, does not fit any simple definition of conservative and liberal, and those trying to claim it does are not dealing with reality.

24 posted on 08/31/2015 5:51:19 PM PDT by Will88
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Yes, I read the whole thing. I agree with Mr. Deace.

One thing Trump can do is position Cruz to be palatable to the establishment. They hate the disruptive influence Trump brings. Cruz might go to something other than a$$hole if he is viewed as an acceptable choice.


25 posted on 08/31/2015 6:25:49 PM PDT by LoneStar42
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So the ball is now in the conservative movement’s court. It is time for the movement to decide if it’s really okay with Mr. Trump transitioning from its co-belligerent provocateur to its standard-bearer. If it is, so be it, then sit back and let the process play itself out rather than risk being on the wrong side of the tornado’s path.

But if the conservative movement is willing to seize the moment and finally assume the mantle of party leadership it’s never been able to wrestle away from the establishment, the opportunity is there to come now and reason together.

Fed up voters are going to want a third party (Mr. Trump) until we (the conservative movement) finally give them a second party.

I gotta tell you, this is an *excellent* analysis and for the most part spot-on.

I disagree that Ben Carson is the only other candidate that can "stop" Donald Trump. I think Ted Cruz can, perhaps, maybe Scott Walker also --- but beyond them? No one.

I think the author did an excellent job on how he's presented the timeline of events that have led up to this point. I think that timeline really stretches back to 1996, but who's to quibble at this point when the author got so much more right.

Excellent find and post on your part!

32 posted on 08/31/2015 7:15:13 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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Trump, whom Deace believes is not a Conservative

He's not. He never has been. He never will be.

36 posted on 08/31/2015 7:30:38 PM PDT by dead ("I'm up to my eyeball in virgin goats!" - Mullah Omar)
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Conservatives are COMING AROUND to Trump, which is why his numbers continue to climb. Don’t worry, he’ll do just fine.


37 posted on 08/31/2015 9:13:15 PM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'profile' page))
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