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Mass LEGAL Immigration Will Finish Conservatism
National Review ^ | 08/31/2015 | Mark Krikorian

Posted on 08/31/2015 7:26:20 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: LucyT

3rd world ping............


21 posted on 08/31/2015 8:19:48 AM PDT by sweetiepiezer (MY COUNTRY WAS OF THEE!!!!)
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To: kabar

The person you are addressing is part of a decent sized minority on FR that has no clue that LEGAL immigrants vote for the democratic party by about 80%. 8 out of every 10 LEGAL immigrants vote left.


22 posted on 08/31/2015 12:04:58 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: LongWayHome

You would think the fact that the Dems are supporting increased immigration and amnesty might give them a clue. That said, the GOPe favors the same thing.


23 posted on 08/31/2015 12:08:19 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

Like you, I have spent years trying to get this simple fact across to the public. I’ve done radio, penned articles, talked to GOP leadership & on & on. American citizens are being removed from their own nation by massive LEGAL immigration & that’s just a fact.


24 posted on 08/31/2015 12:17:48 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: SeekAndFind

Wow. I can’t believe this got published in National Review.

For all those who contend “I’m not against legal immigration, just illegal immigration”, read it and weep.

Even if we had no illegal immigration, the massive numbers of legal immigrants is killing us—we are importing people who disproportionately love the welfare state and who do you think they will vote for?

Thanks for posting this.


25 posted on 08/31/2015 12:18:29 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: SharpRightTurn

RE: Wow. I can’t believe this got published in National Review.

A lot of FReepers tend to give National Review a bad ( how to put it ) “Review” simply because they will publish viewpoints they don’t like ( e.g. articles critical of Trump ).

The fact is, National Review publishes BOTH conservative and establishment Republican supporting articles.


26 posted on 08/31/2015 12:23:05 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (What is the difference between Obama and government bonds? Government bonds will mature someday)
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To: oh8eleven
I say BS, but even if true, real immigrants - not INVADERS - are here legally! We welcome them with open arms.

Screw that. We need to stop all immigration for at least 20 years to sot out what we have.

27 posted on 08/31/2015 12:31:15 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Immigration is the only issue.

And this article proves that.

Also to understand this even more see Ann Coulter’s new book.

Only Trump is saying the word “deport” illegals. Only Trump will build the WaLL. Only Trump can save America


28 posted on 08/31/2015 1:16:42 PM PDT by Democrat_media (obamatrade is a Trojan horse for unlimited immigration to the USA)
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To: LongWayHome

You are right. they should read Ann Coulter’s new book to get a clue to see that immigration is the only issue that matters now.


29 posted on 08/31/2015 1:19:04 PM PDT by Democrat_media (obamatrade is a Trojan horse for unlimited immigration to the USA)
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To: SeekAndFind

“The fact is, National Review publishes BOTH conservative and establishment Republican supporting articles.”

I’ll defer to you on that.

I started reading NR when I was in high school (when I could find it), and started subscribing when I entered college (long ago). Over the years it lost it’s consistently conservative edge. I haven’t had a subscription in many, many years now and very seldom check out its site. After some of their purges of conservative writers and after seeing numerous NR establishment articles posted on FR, I view NR as a mere shadow of its early form.


30 posted on 08/31/2015 1:47:33 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: Democrat_media

I agree immigration is the only issue that matters...once you replace the demographics of the nation with a “new people” that situation can never be fixed. It’s over.


31 posted on 08/31/2015 1:53:51 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: SharpRightTurn

RE: National Review purges.

The two main purges I remember are:

ANN COULTER. That was after 9/11 when she wrote this:

“Airports scrupulously apply the same laughably ineffective airport harassment to Suzy Chapstick as to Muslim hijackers. It is preposterous to assume every passenger is a potential crazed homicidal maniac. We know who the homicidal maniacs are. They are the ones cheering and dancing right now.

We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren’t punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That’s war. And this is war”

The other is JOHN DERBYSHIRE, a British-born naturalized American writer, journalist, mathematician and commentator.

In April 2012, Derbyshire wrote an article for Taki’s Magazine titled “The Talk: Nonblack Version.” The article was a response to reports in the news media of ‘talks’ given by African-American parents to their children warning them against white people. The article, which he couched in terms of purported advice he had given his own children on dealing with African Americans, describes 5% of black people as “ferociously hostile” to whites.

He then advises his readers to avoid settling in black neighborhoods, avoid events that draw large numbers of black people, and refrain from helping black people who seem to be in distress. He also advises white readers to scrutinize black politicians more heavily than white ones, to cultivate friendships with the handful of “intelligent and well socialized blacks” for reasons of public relations, and argued that the average intelligence of black people is lower than that of white people.

Derbyshire’s column immediately provoked condemnation from across the political spectrum.

National Review editor, Rich Lowry, described the piece as “appalling.”

On April 7, Lowry announced that Derbyshire had been dismissed from National Review saying:

“We never would have published it, but the main reason that people noticed it is that it is by a National Review writer. Derb is effectively using our name to get more oxygen for views with which we’d never associate ourselves otherwise. So there has to be a parting of the ways.”

Any more purges you remember?


32 posted on 08/31/2015 2:11:17 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (What is the difference between Obama and government bonds? Government bonds will mature someday)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Any more purges you remember?”

Joe Sobran, John O`Sullivan?


33 posted on 08/31/2015 2:34:51 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: LongWayHome
Same here. I briefed Eric Cantor one on one for almost an hour on immigration. He decided that outreach was the better strategy, At the end, I asked him what would the Democrats' reaction be to mass immigration if most of the immigrants were voting Rep. He laughed and said they wouldn't stand for it. I responded, then why is the GOP allowing this to happen? Crickets.

I briefed and helped Dave Brat after that. We put out over 40,000 robo calls in Cantor's district to expose him on immigration. Cantor was about to release the GOP version of the Dream Act. We also went after Goodlatte, but he backed down.

34 posted on 08/31/2015 2:37:20 PM PDT by kabar
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To: SharpRightTurn

John O’Sullivan is still connected with National Review.

He is the editor-at-large of the opinion magazine National Review and the Director of 21st Century Initiatives and Senior Fellow at the National Review Institute in Washington, D.C.

Bill Buckley himself fired Joe Sobran for a series of columns that he considered “contextually anti-Semitic” (judge for yourself, Sobran considered communism to be, at least in part, a Jewish phenomenon ).

You can still find Sobran writing for paleoconservative journals such as Chronicles.

In fact Pat Buchanan actually offered Sobran a column in his magazine — THE AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE ( that Buchanan would offer Sobran a space in his magazines shows how similar their views are in regards to Israel ).


35 posted on 08/31/2015 2:50:02 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (What is the difference between Obama and government bonds? Government bonds will mature someday)
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To: kabar

I went over the very same issues you did back in 1995 when something could be done about this in a meeting with Newt who had just become speaker of the house.....the meeting broke down & it ended in a nasty way. Suffice it to say I left that meeting with the understanding that Newt was an open borders guy & favored massive amounts of legal immigration.

He was still lying to the GOP base at the time about cracking down on this issue. As an addendum: I ran into Newt at a GOP get-together several years later, after he lost the speaker-ship, and I let him know in no uncertain terms that he blew the 1994 Republican Revolution...he made an aggressive move toward me, was stopped, and we then engaged in a shouting match which resulted in him trying to spit on me....such is the scum we spent years & money trying to elect to the GOPe.


36 posted on 08/31/2015 2:52:15 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: SeekAndFind

If you can still find Sobran writing for anyone that would be amazing since he’s been dead for years. O’Sullivan was fired for many years over his immigration stance. He’s back & emasculated concerning the immigration issue.


37 posted on 08/31/2015 2:55:02 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: SeekAndFind

I believe Joe is now deceased.


38 posted on 08/31/2015 4:50:50 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: Texas Eagle

Unfortunately that is the heart of the issue. Theses people don’t learn, and as such are behaving not as immigrants but locust.

The only viable 3rd option is to accept our loss of America or the parts they invest and create a new country from the parts we still control. Long term should trump fail this will be the only hope for our future. America will become corrupt and bankrupt like Mexico and Central America for the same reasons.


39 posted on 08/31/2015 5:07:07 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Monorprise

Perhaps God can create another continent for us to escape to. And this time we’ll spell things out in no uncertain terms.


40 posted on 08/31/2015 5:09:46 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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