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To: Mariner
I agree that we are about to see the ugliest presidential campaign in our lifetimes. As you point out, hundreds of millions of anti-Trump ads will be aired by not just the Democrats but by Republican as well. Probably billions.

They are going to pull out all the stops here because Donald Trump represents a serious threat to their power structure. And there is no lack of ammunition. Anybody who has remotely followed Trump through the years will know that there is no end of juicy stories regarding his business dealings and his personal affairs that would sink just about any other candidate.

However, I think that with respect to most of the electorate, Trump is immunized against these stories. All these revelations will be seen as "Trump being Trump" and the talk will be "how we need somebody like that to clean up Washington."

Even in this forum, we have our group of anti-Trumpers who post here all day long and they are getting no love at all from the rest of us. Most of us have had enough of establishment politics and while we realize that Trump is no pristine conservative by any means, he is the kind of person who will definitely move the needle once he gets in. Trump is not a "go along to get along" kind of guy, which is what all our conservatives turn into when they get sent to Washington on our behalf.

Republicans now have control of both houses of Congress and can we name even one conservative victory since they got in? Has there even been one time when they went against Obama on anything?

The anger in this country is real and we will have millions of people who will overlook anything that gets dredged up from Trump's past in order to get him to the White House. It's kind of a scary thought but it's probably the only chance we have. We know we will not move the needle with a Republican Congress full of career politicians or an establishment GOP president like Jebbie Bush.

20 posted on 08/30/2015 12:15:59 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (We gave GOP the majority to take care of business and they let us down. Time for Trump/Cruz)
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To: SamAdams76
Trump has been on the other side, has played the game, and knows how greased wheels spin easier. He also knows that if the country goes down the tubes, then everything he has worked so hard for will be worth squat. Has he seen the light or is he just another in the long-line of talk/promise, get elected, and then do the opposite?

I trust it's the former. If not, we're screwed, anyway.

22 posted on 08/30/2015 12:35:24 PM PDT by JPG (What's the difference between the Rats and the GOPe? Nothing.)
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To: SamAdams76; All
What's more conservative than sending millions of leftist illegal immigrants back to the countries they came from? All the conservative causes will win if you have less leftist immigrants in the USA.

After the 1986 amnesty California went from a conservative state to a liberal state . So immigration is far more important that the other issues.

Only Trump is even saying the words deport illegals. Only Trump is talking against China and Mexico etc.

Wonder why rump is the only one saying these America first things? Because all the rest of the politicians are owned by foreign interests and rich internationalist donors. Trump is not owned by anyone .

Politicians are corrupt and have destroyed this country. Enough. And many are shilling against Trump even here . We have an opportunity here of a lifetime to finally get someone that is on our side the American people's side and they are saying " they want the politicians what hasn't worked for the last 100 years".

26 posted on 08/30/2015 1:11:43 PM PDT by Democrat_media (obamatrade is a Trojan horse for unlimited immigration to the USA)
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To: SamAdams76

Your name says it all. Spoken like the real Sam Adams, an American Patriot without equal.


34 posted on 08/30/2015 2:20:45 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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