Patton was famous for his vulgar language. His job (and he did a magnificent job of it) was killing our nation's enemies wholesale. As a movement, we knew Patton historically. He was the anti-MASH, the antithesis of uberwimp Alan Alda. Patton was a friend of ours and of Western Civilization. Trump is NO Patton. Trump won't get the same pass if nominated. Nor should he.
My parents taught me manners. Your parents undoubtedly taught you manners. Even The Donald's parents taught him manners but he rebels against the very notion.
GeronL is advocating civilized standards and language in our culture. There is a difference between civilization and "political correctness" which threatens civilization.
Whatever else Trump may represent, he has very little "class." He is doing politics as performance art. If he took off his clothes on stage and smeared himself with melting chocolate, his supporters would make lame arguments for how brilliant such behavior really is.
Trump's supporters ought to expect more of a candidate. He is capable of making serious policy proposals as indicated by his release of his policy proposals on immigration. Now let's hear a similar level of specifics on:
Baby-killing, SCOTUS and other fedcourt nominations, eliminating OBOZO/Romneyare, environmental policy including winding down the EPA, giving up the excessive fedcontrol of Western land, the right to keep and bear arms, kicking ISIS's collective patoot and finishing the SOBs off once and for all together with finishing off their Islamofascist brethren, restoring America's "greatness" as the sole remaining superpower in world affairs, restoring the US industrial base whether the wussies of Wall Street like it or not, restoring the funding of the Army, Navy, Marine Corps, Air Force to Reagan era levels such as a 600 ship Navy, dealing with the menace that is the United Nations (united against us), enforcing the right of Americans to freedom of worship as included in the First Amendment, public recognition that our rights as Americans come from God and not from government (which has the obligation to secure those rights), etc. ,etc., etc.
Getting to work on those and other priority issues should take precedence over making an embarrassing low-rent fool of himself with linguistic temper tantrums about how Megan Kelly had blood coming from her eyes or her "wherever."
I would also like some serious explanation of his prior support of "single payer" Obozo/Romneycare, abortion on demand, allowing a "transgender contestant to compete in his "Miss" Universe competition, his apparent prior weakness on RTKBA, how he would never appoint the likes of his militant pro-abort federal judge sister to ANY judgeship, an how he came to change his mind on these and so many other issues. Is he consciously pandering to the base or, as with Reagan on abortion, did he genuinely change his mind and, if so, why?
I refused to vote for one "Republican" Obozo in whiteface known as Mitt Romney. I think I agree with Trump a lot more than I ever could or did with Romney. OTOH, recognize that Trump will lose many votes unless he cleans up his act and his mouth and emphasizes detailed substance over flash. Neither Obozo nor Romney were adequately vetted. How did that work out?
I don’t agree with Trump about the same as Romney.
I didn’t vote for Romney.
After 2012 a lot of FReepers said they would never vote RINO again, a lot of FReepers said they would only vote for a real true blue conservative.
TRUMP does not even come close to being conservative.
So the candidate you support has spoken out bluntly and forthrightly on the devastating human toll the foreign invaders are wreaking on US citizens. Your candidate has also addressed the madness of the wide open border and loss of US sovereignty.
I would like to see those quotes.
Here is the situation. The country is already gone. A country without borders is not a country, period. The foreign invaders already enjoy more rights, privileges and benefits than US citizens. US citizens, many of them, work hard and pay taxes. Every year billions of those tax $ are gifted to foreign invaders, so as to encourage ever greater floods of invaders. While US citizen veterans are dying on VA waiting lists, foreigners get free medical care. While veterans die on public housing waiting lists, foreign invaders step to the front of the line. When drunken foreign invaders kill or maim US citizens, often they get off scott free by telling the judge drunk driving is a cultural tradition where they come from.
That is the barest tip of the iceberg. The country, as one candidate articulated, is going to (cover your ears) hell. If the US were a house, it would be on fire and in danger of burning to the ground. Right now parts of it can still be salvaged. But the window of time for reclaiming even some of what this country once was is closing. There is a fireman who would like to turn his monster hose lose on the blaze, and save as much of the house as he can.
But you Trump haters don’t want that. The fireman’s speech is too coarse. Better to let the house burn to cinders than let a man of unrefined speech train his water hoses on the blaze.
It’s called insanity.
My husband and I (and an occasional teenager) have been watching M*A*S*H streaming on Netflix in the last couple of months. I don't understand why Alan Alda is supposed to be the archetype of a wimp or girlyman. His character is brave, skilled, hardworking when called upon. He's a fornicator and a purveyor of sexual badinage in the workplace - what we'd call a serial harasser these days. (I don't personally admire this, but it seems that many people consider these to be positive qualities of the masculine gender of the "good old days.")
Aside from his being anti-war, I don't see the point of the criticisms.
Frankly, playing the gentleman or by Marquis of Queensberry rules has gotten us nowhere in an ever-increasing coarse, feminized and decayed culture. Trump’s bluntness and no bullcrap (what you call “vulgarity”) is frankly refreshing, if only because it speaks truth to power. It’s time someone stood up and called a spade a spade. If he reigns it in, he loses his strength.
It’s unfortunate we never had the chance to elect a Patton as President, because he was similarly a threat to the establishment and wouldn’t have put up with decades of a Cold War with the Soviets or the undermining of our government and culture by the anti-American left.
Come to think of it, Trump very well could echo those characteristics of strength in the Presidency we haven’t had in decades. I think he can teach us how to be unapologetically masculine again.