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To: IronJack
The quote I cited is in the context of a discussion of women being responsible for their own rapes. You made a statement that rape isn't okay BUT if women dress like whores, they shouldn't be surprised when they're treated like whores... "But" negates what came before it, (and so does "however"). Thus, a reasonable interpretation of your complete remark is that while rape is bad, having sex against her will with a woman dressed like a whore isn't rape, it's just treating her like a "whore."

You've reinforced that reading in your response here. You write that men have a right to expect women to act according to the way you choose to categorize them, and thus when women fail, men are "perfectly justifi[ed]" in treating women who look or act like what you call sluts -- how, exactly? Again in this context, what can you mean if not that whatever men do to such a woman, it can't be rape? I don't see any reasonable reading of your comment in this context that doesn't suggest that non-consensual sexual contact is okay when the woman is dressed like a slut, and that's precisely what makes your argument fail. My point, which you conveniently ignored, is that you don't have any more right to force a woman you regard as a slut into a sexual encounter than a woman you regard as a lady. Only rape apologists insist men have a right to commit crimes against women as long as they're sluts, not nice women. The law doesn't define rape as a sexual assault against a woman the rapist, if he were being honest, would admit wasn't really a slut, but whom he attacked anyway. Rape is a sexual assault, and the rapist doesn't get to excuse himself by attacking the character of his victim.

89 posted on 08/30/2015 3:59:07 PM PDT by Kanakabaraka
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To: Kanakabaraka

“Treating her as a slut” is nowhere — at least in MY lexicon — defined as “justifying rape.”. On at least two separate occasions, I have stated that in the most definitive terms. Yet you persist in taking offense at the words you yourself put in my mouth.

I suggest you continue this argument with yourself, since my input seems to be extraneous anyway.


92 posted on 08/30/2015 7:52:56 PM PDT by IronJack
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