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Your first post to me was on 6/12 and it was to ridicule me, NOT reason with me.

From day one that I spoke to you -- I told you off, for I had seen enough at that point, having read every single comment of every thread (and every associated news article & more) from the very beginning.

I saw then that there would be no use in trying to reason with you.

You are an ass. You have been one in regards to this subject matter. An unmitigated, near total 360 degrees. And I don't mind telling you.

There was a breaking thread or two...showing the guys all sitting around waiting to be shipped off to wherever. I saw that one, which began, I don't know for sure, but I first caught sight of it about 3:30 or 3:45 PM iirc. That thread was still young, even if it was some time later, like after 4PM.

I remember that, because previous to the occurrence, say a week or more, ten or 12 days was it(?) there had been a small news item -- that was either posted here, or I likely came across seeing it in a sidebar of some other news outlet site, that made mention of there being a CoC meeting slated for that day, and that local LE was expected trouble.

I remember that because when I read about it, I thought it had a smell -- like there was some kind of set-up about the deal which I couldn't quite put my finger on ---- and I considered going to the locale to situate myself somewhere outside the Twin Peaks (but at some distance) in order to be an eyewitness.

I think in that article, which I'm not sure how to go about finding now, not being able to think of just what search terms would bring it up, instead of too many later articles on the same subject (although I have seen the bulletin about it, there was yet another follow-up article posted somewhere, in regards to the bulletin) -- there had been mention of the police planning on bringing their own surveillance equipment, and possibly also there was mention of planned contingency to gain rooftop access of other buildings if the police felt need to, in addition to bringing their own surveillance equipment, which I assumed would be a scissor-jack apparatus of the kind I've seen around in other cities, in the last few years.

Instead of going, as that first came fairly strongly to mind -- that I really should--- I didn't get around to making actual plans to, like marking a calendar, watching for the day to arrive, making certain I set off early enough to arrive there in midday, etc.

Instead, I spaced it out, let it slip from mind, ended up not preparing to go at all, and then on that day, to make my failure to follow thru worse in my own eyes ---took a late morning nap shortly before noon, waking up a few hours later and after a little puttering around the hacienda, checked FR and saw the breaking news, the videos and still photos of those present still in the parking lots, and lined up on the curb towards the freeway ramp.

I kicked myself for not going. I had considered parking some distance away from the one restaurant itself if I did, with having reason to do so come to mind due in part for seeing how most people who went to the Draw Mohammad event near Dallas were not allowed to drive their vehicles away, after the little bit of shooting that took place there. I had thought of attending that one too, but didn't, even after coming across offer for free tickets on-line. In considering that event, since I'd been there before, and had viewed google map satellite imagery, I thought I'd park either to the North of that place near a Walmart(?), or else in the municipal park to the West of the whatever-Center the event was to be held in, thinking in part -- if I was a smart muzzie and was going to try sneaking up on the place, I might try coming at it from that angle, and so --- maybe I'd see a potential assailant and be able to call for help. I thought too -- if a muzzie was to attack, and was of the more dumb kind, they'd probably be stupid enough to pull up in the parking lot of the Center -- which had one of those scissor jack, police camera, glorified surveillance doghouses on top of the scissors during the time the muslims used that facility prior to Pamela Gellar returning to the use the same facility.

Dumb muzzies, dead muzzies. People got lucky that day (other than the poor bastard muzzies who thought they might be doing God a favor) because the people who were guarding the affair were brave enough, and effective enough. A policeman that day, saved the day. BUt no, don''t quote-mine that comment, picking that one alone to respond to this note with. If we were face to face and you gave me the smug and smirk, I'd take it as fighting words, Princess, no matter how big and bad you may think you are.

But I'm not so sure we'll always be dealing with the poor, horribly misguided dumb muzzies, instead of misguided muzzies with a bit more cunning. Those are the ones that worry me.

Now whether or not if I had went to Waco, and would have accurately enough assessed the overall lay-out to chose a proper location in order to see what may, or may not happen, and then now in hindsight -- whether or not I would have had the nerve to not duck down and hide behind some form of cover once the fairly large amount of gunfire there was began, I can't say for any certainty. It all changes when the bullets start flying. That I do have some knowledge of. I don't like being shot at.

I do know that I would not have brought any weapons myself, or would have tried to in any way at all participate, or to take sides, for or against anyone, including the police. It would be possible that any testimony I would eventually have given (if I had been a witness, and saw anything that others didn't) could well have supported LE sides of whatever 'story', for I had no intention of ever deliberately telling lies just to protect bikers, or anyone else from allegations which held truth as far as I may possible been able to determine. But it came to mind to not be intending on running over to the police and volunteering any information either, if there were to be something occur which would be likely to later be talked about in a courtroom. I do regret not going, and not being able to be in position to offer testimony in support of any who would end up being charged with something, but I may have been able to see they were innocent of --- because I saw a policeman do such & such, or whatever.

All I thought of doing was to be a witness --- thinking about keeping an eye on the cops most of all, since I figured if anything bad did happen, the cops would be watching everything else, and so there would be no real need for me to concentrate most on whatever it would be that they would be watching, but instead, I thought somebody should watching the watchers.

This is not the first time I have failed to follow through on what my internal navigation devices have indicated to me was something I should do, but I regret this latest far less than I do one other time most acutely that it still pains me to even think about it. In a far removed case, I could have made a difference --- and reported someone to LE who it was indicated to myself by the Holy Spirit with utmost certainty had been the one who had killed a woman named Rachel Newhouse. Some few months later of my having encountered this man, the same man allegedly killed another woman, named Crawford if I'm remembering that correctly. Andrea, was her first name, I think. The man ended up being convicted for both murders, and went back to prison. When I first met that guy, he was working at an 84 lumber, and the spirits on him were foul -- prison had crawled into him.

It's a long story. But it's all too late now for Andrea Crawford, who, I never met, but am of the mind was totally innocent and didn't deserve to die the way she did. I maybe could have stopped the guy, prevented the second murder, even though I am absolutely certain if I had gone to the police with my suspicions (the guy at one point asked me "what do you think of that girl who got murdered" or something to that effect --and looking at him it hit me --- YOU ARE THE GUY THAT DID IT! omg, I hope he doesn't notice that I see it in his eyes, that I KNOW he did it...

...the police would have grilled me and grilled me over and over, I was pretty sure --- maybe even arrested me and charged me with having murdered her instead of the guy they eventually proved well enough did it, because that's the way cops often are. Sort of dumb. I can still see in my mind's eye the picture of Rachel Newhouse that was repeatedly in the local newspaper, it hurts to think about it, she too was an innocent, not deserving of what happened to her, and it must have been horrible for her to suffer, going by what little information there was...blood on the pedestrian bridge which she must have been crossing when her murderer was there --- and I believe now later, laying in wait, just waiting for someone like her to walk across the bridge so he could use the bridge like a trap...

But I was afraid they would not believe me for what little I was certain about at the time, but highly suspect me instead, then be convinced of their own rightness in their opinions, from which often, once those are expressed, or else there is an arrest -- they cannot be dissuaded from no matter what. Sort of like you.

So tell us all, and tell us true this time.

What affiliation with LE do you have?