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To: rktman
Carson reminded, "The Second Amendment of that Constitution gives citizens the right to keep and bare arms."

The 2nd Amendment does no such thing. It "gives" nothing. It prohibits the gov't from restricting our pre-existing right to keep and bear arms, which in turn flows from our pre-existing right to self-defense, which further derives from our inalienable right to life. Carson still does not fully understand that rights are not conferred by governments or documents.

7 posted on 08/28/2015 7:39:28 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: Paine in the Neck

But glad to see Ben is learning.


11 posted on 08/28/2015 7:46:14 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Paine in the Neck
Carson still does not fully understand that rights are not conferred by governments or documents.

And he likely never will because that's cultural, not intellectual. Perhaps a good Surgeon General but otherwise, he's out of his depth.

14 posted on 08/28/2015 7:47:03 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Paine in the Neck
Carson still does not fully understand...

Yes, sadly among the members of the gang of 17 (or whatever the number is today) there are but a scant few who understand the diff between inalienable rights and powers. The two at the top do not, AFAIK. All the more reason to work hard for any Constitutional Conservatives in the race.

15 posted on 08/28/2015 7:47:06 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Paine in the Neck

Looks like another round of training for Doc Carson. He may be a brilliant brain surgeon but he is way off on this and probably a lot of other constitutional aspects.


16 posted on 08/28/2015 7:48:59 AM PDT by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to deprive me of mine. Kinda weird.)
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To: Paine in the Neck
The 2nd Amendment does no such thing. It "gives" nothing.

Thank you for clarifying a point which drives me nuts.

The basic principles of the Constitution are so poorly understood by so many.

27 posted on 08/28/2015 7:58:04 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Democracy is not freedom. Democracy is simply majoritarianism. It is incompatible with real freedom.)
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To: Paine in the Neck

“The 2nd Amendment does no such thing. It “gives” nothing. It prohibits the gov’t from restricting our pre-existing right to keep and bear arms, which in turn flows from our pre-existing right to self-defense, which further derives from our inalienable right to life.”

Very good..

I would go one step further. The Founding Fathers said the 2nd Amendment is a recognition of the God given pre-existing right to self-defense. No man can prohibit or attempt to discourage a God given right.

The 2nd Amendment is, therefore, non-touchable by any man.


53 posted on 08/28/2015 11:11:24 AM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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