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Christian clerk fights on as Sixth Circuit orders her to issue gay ‘marriage’ licenses
Life Site News ^ | August 27, 2015 | Dustin Siggins

Posted on 08/27/2015 2:51:58 PM PDT by NYer

ROWAN COUNTY, KY, August 27, 2015 (LifeSiteNews) -- A federal appeals court has ordered Christian clerk Kim Davis to provide same-sex “marriage” licenses, but she’s refusing to give in.

Davis, a Democrat, says that her Christian beliefs will not allow her to issue licenses for same-sex “marriages.” Despite pressure from Democrat Gov. Steve Beshear, a lawsuit from the ACLU, and two federal court rulings, Davis has refused to issue any licenses while the matter is still working its way through the courts.

However, the Sixth District Court of Appeals said Davis must issue the licenses.

While critics say Davis must follow the law as a public employee, she says the First Amendment protects her decision even as a government worker. In addition to being sued by the ACLU, she has pro-actively taken her case to court.

Beshear told all government employees that "you can continue to have your own personal beliefs, but, you’re also taking an oath to fulfill the duties prescribed by law, and if you are at that point to where your personal convictions tell you that you simply cannot fulfill your duties that you were elected to do, then obviously an honorable course to take is to resign and let someone else step in who feels that they can fulfill those duties.”

The initial court decision against Davis was stayed 10 days ago. Liberty Counsel's Mat Staver, whose organization represents Davis, told CNN that they might appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court and are hoping the high court would issue a stay of the Sixth Circuit ruling in the interim.

A poll of Kentucky voters that was released last month found that 50 percent of the state backs natural marriage, while only 37 percent supported its redefinition. 


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; hoosexual; marriage
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To: zaxtres
Otherwise we can all pick and choose what laws we follow or don’t follow.

I did that before this whole "gay marriage" thing came along. I don't just blindly follow laws. If they go against my God's Word, I won't follow them, even if the forces of the state put me in jail or murder me, because I (and millions more of us) answer to a higher power than government. If the laws involve a power government has not been given, I will not follow it.

The fact that Americans--millions of Americans-- believe there is no higher power than government, no higher duty than to obey the laws of government, is horrific to me. My country is gone, and I mourn the loss.

41 posted on 08/27/2015 7:15:24 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (AMERICA IS DONE! When can we start over?)
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To: Hugin
First one to bring up Nazis loses. Argument over.

A rule--Godwin's Law-- made by moral midgets who do not realize that most governments differ from the Nazis merely in degree, not in kind.

That is such an infantile response. You don't still live in your parents' basement, do you?

42 posted on 08/27/2015 7:21:19 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (AMERICA IS DONE! When can we start over?)
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To: liberalism is suicide

Well said, your #26.


43 posted on 08/27/2015 7:22:33 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (AMERICA IS DONE! When can we start over?)
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To: Hugin
If she wasn’t willing to do it for that reason, she doesn’t need to cite her personal religious beliefs at all. It’s irrelevant.

Thanks for confirming your position: no Christians need apply to government jobs. Now scuttle along back to Democrat Underground.

44 posted on 08/27/2015 7:23:45 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (AMERICA IS DONE! When can we start over?)
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To: zaxtres
While I will defend her personal rights and the right for her to express and practice her religion, she holds a public office which must be fair and just to all of the individuals in which her office oversees.

As much as I hate to say it, I agree with this. Just like in the private sector, sometimes job descriptions change. And if you don't agree to the new requirements they don't have to keep you.

I feel for the clerk and I understand her viewpoint totally, but I think she needs to realize that her old job (marriage licenses) is gone and she is not suited to the new job ("marriage" licenses).

This is just one example of the kind of thing that is happening due to this irresponsible and poorly-reasoned court decision by Kennedy.

45 posted on 08/27/2015 7:25:25 PM PDT by W.P. Wily
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To: HiTech RedNeck
It is never law uber God.

Or, put another way, if I believe God is against that law, I won't obey it, and government can kill me or my family, but they can't make me obey willingly.

And they HATE that they don't have the power to coerce us just yet. Just read some of the responses on this thread-- they are just dying for more coercion.

46 posted on 08/27/2015 7:26:22 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (AMERICA IS DONE! When can we start over?)
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To: NetAddicted
Excellent response and highly appropriate comparison.

Thanks. The moral midgets have outlawed comparisons to Nazi Germany, because the were tired of their actions being compared to something so hated. Well, when the comparison is apt, I will make it, no matter how many nattering nerdy nabobs are caterwauling, "Godwin's Law! Godwin's Law! You lose! You lose!" Infantile.

47 posted on 08/27/2015 7:30:36 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (AMERICA IS DONE! When can we start over?)
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To: NetAddicted
Is it okay that she refuses to issue homosexual mirage licenses, if she asks another clerk to do it? I’m assuming 99% of her job is unrelated to sin.

I'm pretty sure the Progs will not agree to that. You see, what they want is the CONTROL over individuals, to FORCE Christians to go along with the homosexual madness. It's not rational, it's mentally sick, but it's what they do.

48 posted on 08/27/2015 7:33:54 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (AMERICA IS DONE! When can we start over?)
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To: backwoods-engineer

Progs?


49 posted on 08/27/2015 7:37:02 PM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: W.P. Wily
As much as I hate to say it, I agree with this. Just like in the private sector, sometimes job descriptions change. And if you don't agree to the new requirements they don't have to keep you.

It's an elected position!

Just bake the cake, huh? Just sign the 'marriage' license, right? Just obey ALMIGHTY government, because there is no higher duty?

No thanks.

50 posted on 08/27/2015 7:39:06 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (AMERICA IS DONE! When can we start over?)
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To: NetAddicted

Progs = Progressives. It’s their term. They are identifying with the Woodrow Wilson / Franklin Delano Roosevelt school of thought about American government, which says, “The Constitution says anything I want it to, and I have enough power to force you people to do anything I can gin up a majority to lord it over you with.”


51 posted on 08/27/2015 7:41:37 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (AMERICA IS DONE! When can we start over?)
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To: DesertRhino

She’ll end up in jail on contempt charges.


52 posted on 08/27/2015 8:09:08 PM PDT by mountainbunny (Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens ~ JR.R. Tolkien)
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To: NYer

Kind of hard to say a government job removes religious rights - I’ve seen Muslims, in uniform, on their prayer rugs and doing the “praise Allah” thing...


53 posted on 08/28/2015 2:42:13 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: NYer
She needs this: I watch part of the 2 hour show today, and I want a copy.

54 posted on 08/28/2015 3:08:06 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Lurking Libertarian
Watch, LISTEN, and LEARN !
55 posted on 08/28/2015 3:23:07 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Signalman
You don't understand what's being done to this country, and the LIES we're being sold !
56 posted on 08/28/2015 3:48:12 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Hugin; Lurking Libertarian

“If her religious beliefs don’t allow her to do the job, she should resign.”

Agreed. This isn’t a private business, it’s the state. And I don’t want any government officials deciding for themselves which laws apply and which don’t.


57 posted on 08/28/2015 4:17:15 AM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: highball
WRONG !

Footnote: U.S. Constitution
58 posted on 08/28/2015 4:37:46 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: highball
I would say that the Executive Branch leads by example in not following laws, why should a clerk be any different?

Also government has broken the social contract which these United States were established in the first place; therefore this clerk's only appeal is to a higher power beyond the subjective viewpoints of a Supreme Court that has ignored Natural Law. If homosexuality is considered under the boundaries of Natural Law, then every single sexual fetish exercised by human beings should also be within the boundaries of Natural Law.

Libertarians are a joke and hypocrites, especially when they wave their pompoms around the founders and case law while ignoring the original purpose the founders established concerning government and the reason for the social contract in the first place.

59 posted on 08/28/2015 5:02:09 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Yosemitest

Nice try. But Muslims can cite their own scripture.

I’m sure Obama can cite passages to justify his decision not to enforce laws; surely you’re okay with that too, right?


60 posted on 08/28/2015 5:08:29 AM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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