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Recently announced crude oil swaps with Mexico likely to provide economic and environmental benefits
Energy Information Administration ^ | August 26, 2015 | Energy Information Administration

Posted on 08/27/2015 10:29:10 AM PDT by thackney

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1 posted on 08/27/2015 10:29:10 AM PDT by thackney
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Since heavy sour takes more to refine this will cost refiners money unless they get more heavy sour than they give light sweet to Mexico or

they get subsidies from the taxpayers (which government loves, loves, loves)


2 posted on 08/27/2015 10:34:51 AM PDT by GeronL (Cruz is for real, 100%)
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I wonder how the Donald’s negotiators would have handled this?


3 posted on 08/27/2015 10:36:19 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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It is not a government swap. No subsidies.

Oil companies are not trading without cash differences.


4 posted on 08/27/2015 10:37:01 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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Schlumberger to Buy Cameron International for $12.7 Billion

Hercules Offshore to file for bankruptcy

5 posted on 08/27/2015 10:37:40 AM PDT by TexasCajun (#BlackViolenceMatters)
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To: Don Corleone
I wonder how the Donald’s negotiators would have handled this?

Why would they ever be involved? The only action from the government is "proceed". The real action the US government should take is remove the export ban and get out of the way.

6 posted on 08/27/2015 10:46:05 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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http://bakken.com/news/id/243001/update-2-mexicos-pemex-hails-crude-swap-with-u-s-expects-permit-this-month/

Pemex should know by the first quarter of next year which light U.S. crudes will work best, following test runs, he said.

The imports could come from either onshore or offshore production in the United States, he added, including shale or conventional oil.

He added that Pemex has already asked for several price quotes from U.S. crude producers, though he declined to name them.

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Pemex collects bids from private companies including price for the swap.


7 posted on 08/27/2015 10:47:21 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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Seems reasonable. But it looks like the Mexicans would build refineries that could process their own sulfur laden oil at a much cheaper cost..............................


8 posted on 08/27/2015 10:55:00 AM PDT by Red Badger (READ MY LIPS: NO MORE BUSHES!...............)
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Hercules Offshore, Inc
http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=HERO+Interactive#{”range”:”5y”,”allowChartStacking”:true}

July, 15, 2013, closed at $7.85 per share

Today it opened at $0.05 per share

Ya takes your chances in the oil bidnes’


9 posted on 08/27/2015 10:55:22 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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Build upgraded refineries takes some Pemex is lacking:

Billions of dollars...

And many years...


10 posted on 08/27/2015 10:56:20 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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...just the beginning, I believe.

More Bankruptcy, more mergers.

Part of the cycle.

11 posted on 08/27/2015 11:01:32 AM PDT by TexasCajun (#BlackViolenceMatters)
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It wouldn’t if PEMEX was a PRIVATE company...................

Many years? Hell look at all the Mexicans they got! 6 months tops................


12 posted on 08/27/2015 11:19:59 AM PDT by Red Badger (READ MY LIPS: NO MORE BUSHES!...............)
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Like making a baby in a few weeks if you use enough pregnant ladies??


13 posted on 08/27/2015 11:25:31 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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There’s a new housing subdivision being built across the street from me on an old elementary school property. There are 42 houses being built. The workers are all Hispanic/Latino and they are flying up! After the concrete foundation is laid and set, they swarm in, frame up the entire house in less than a day, roof it the next, drywall, electrical and plumbing and then outside brick work to finish. A new $300k+ home in less than a week..........................


14 posted on 08/27/2015 11:40:53 AM PDT by Red Badger (READ MY LIPS: NO MORE BUSHES!...............)
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Yeah, a bit of a difference from needing to build a coker unit and others.

20,000 hp gas compressor, Massive Drums that take a year or more for fabrication, etc

You are not going to go find the parts at home depot. Nor are you going to build it with semi-skilled labor.

Heck it took a few years just to engineer and design a similar project in Indiana. Look at the description of the project make BP Whiting capable of handling more heavy crude from Alberta.

800 modules and vessels
• 1,200 pieces of equipment
• 380 miles of pipe
• 50,000 tons of steel
• 1325 miles of wire and cable
• 15,000 concrete truck deliveries
• 95,000 truckload deliveries
• 14,000 piles to be driven
• 200 material deliveries per day
• 9,000+ Staff/Craft on ‘One Whiting’ site at peak

http://www.indianalogistics.com/summit/history/2012/presentations/Session%203%20-%20Michael%20Berna%20Indiana%20Logistics%20Summit%202012.pdf

http://www.bp.com/content/dam/bp-bitumen/en_us/documents/WRMP.pdf


15 posted on 08/27/2015 11:58:52 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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Yeah, but the Mexicans don’t have to worry with all those silly EPA and OSHA regulations and zoning requirements!....................


16 posted on 08/27/2015 12:06:53 PM PDT by Red Badger (READ MY LIPS: NO MORE BUSHES!...............)
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True that, but I’ve had experience with Mexico trying to build their own coker drums on site. After 18 months we gave up and placed an order at a fab shop. About a 2 year delay in construction.

Almost right isn’t a great way to deal with high temperature hydrocarbons.


17 posted on 08/27/2015 12:13:15 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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“Seems reasonable. But it looks like the Mexicans would build refineries that could process their own sulfur laden oil at a much cheaper cost..............................”

One would need capital to do this.

Who would lend such to Mexico? No outsider would build a refinery there under the threat of it being nationalized.


18 posted on 08/27/2015 12:19:00 PM PDT by bestintxas (every time a RINO loses, a founding father gets his wings.)
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Almost right isn’t a great way to deal with high temperature hydrocarbons.

But it would sure make life a whole lot more exciting!..................

19 posted on 08/27/2015 12:32:48 PM PDT by Red Badger (READ MY LIPS: NO MORE BUSHES!...............)
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I’ve been on the repair team following “exciting” in oil/gas/petrochm a few times...

I’ve been fortunate to not be there during the truly exciting times.


20 posted on 08/27/2015 12:34:18 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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