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To: sten

>> his mother was 18 when she gave birth, too young to convey citizenship. <<

Neither common law nor natural law, as discussed by Sen. Howard’s speech introducing the 14th amendment and innumerable 19th-century court cases would in any way require a mother to be 18, or any age, to convey citizenship. <<

>> and his father was never a citizen <<

But he was married to one, making it evident that he intended, at the time, to be an immigrant, not a wayfaring traveler.

Now, had his mother stayed in Indonesia, you might have a tenuous argument that she surrendered her citizenship, and through her, he did. But this argument would be very tenuous indeed, because it is in fact at the core of the very first Supreme-Court decision related to immigration, wherein the daughter of a Brit who returned to Britain was ruled to be a citizen by birth.

Your best bet would be to say he renounced his citizenship, and that the fact that he claimed to be an immigrant confirms that he thought of himself as having renounced it.


39 posted on 08/27/2015 11:23:50 AM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

look it up.

in order to convey citizenship from Dec. 24, 1952 and prior to Nov. 14, 1986:
“Citizen parent physically present in U.S. or possession 10 year prior to child’s birth, five of which after age 14.”

http://photos.state.gov/libraries/unitedkingdom/164203/cons-acs/transmission_tables.pdf

being married to one is irrelevant.

just the facts


43 posted on 08/27/2015 12:48:06 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: dangus
WRONG !

The Arab-Kenyan Barack Hussein Obama II, (a.k.a. Barry Soetoro), ( the one guilty of TREASON ! ) has NO legitimate Social Security Number.
His father was NOT an immigrant to the United States.
Barack Obama Sr. was a "Transient Alien" because he did NOT intend on residing in the United States permanently.
Barack Obama Sr. was a dual citizen of Great Britain and Kenya, and NEVER a United States Citizen.His mother could NOT impart U.S. citizen to her son, Barack Obama II,
because she did NOT meet the legal requirements to do so
,
at the time her son was born IN the Coast Provincial General Hospital, MOMBASA, KENYA at 7:21 pm on August 4, 1961.
Democrats knew this and tried to eliminate the "Natural Born Citizen" requirement at least 8 times BEFORE Obama won his election in 2008.

Obama is NOT a United States Citizen, and is NOT a LEGAL IMMIGRANT.
He has no VISA allowing him into this country.
Barack Hussein Obama II IS ILLEGAL !
He should be IMPEACHED IMMEDIATELY, tried for TREASON, SENTENCED to death,
and then have his body deported back to Kenya.

CORRECTION: Barack Obama, the first black Arab-American -Kenyan pResident of the United States.



Now about this "ANCHOR BABY" birth "right" citizenship CRAP :
90 posted on 08/28/2015 4:44:51 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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