How clueless are you?
LEGAL aliens have permission to be here and agree to come by the rules.
ILLEGAL aliens do not have permission to be here.
That BOTH have to obey the same laws while they are here is an idiotic argument - one of them ALREADY has not obeyed the laws
Not when one understands that the issue under discussion is whether they are "subject to the jurisdiction" of the U.S. Once you acknowledge that illegals are subject to our laws (can be arrested, prosecuted, incarcerated) then my point is not only NOT illogical, it compels the answer. They are thereby "subject to the jurisdiction" of the U.S.
Compare foreign diplomats. They are one of the two common law exceptions to the birth-citizenship rule. Why are they excepted? Because the host country does not exercise complete jurisdiction over them. They have "diplomatic immunity." If they transgress our U.S. laws, the only sanction (absent a treaty modifying the historic rule) is expulsion. They cannot be tried and incarcerated.
To point out that illegals have already broken the law doesn't negate the fact that they are subject to our laws.
Here is the point, Mr. K. When foreign invaders, engaged in a hostile action they call the Reconquista, breach our borders in droves, we owe them citizenship. That is how we keep the Reconquista alive, well and ever expanding: we reward it.
What’s so unusual about that? Don’t all countries reward foreign invaders? The more of the US the Reconquista ‘reclaims,’ the more we should reward them.
Or maybe we should just give them back the land. They claim a huge chunk of the US already belongs to them. Rather than make them work so hard to re-can onquor it, let’s just gift it to them. Granted, they would just redouble their illegal invasion into the rest of the US—but at least they’d have a more convenient platform from which to do it.
[The key to all this is that if you’re ever able to capture and hold a foreign invader, he/she automatically becomes an ‘immigrant.’ You know, like magic.]