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To: C. Edmund Wright; wagglebee; P-Marlowe

We are awake. We know that the only candidate who can defeat the establishment and kill it is one with media access, personal wealth, and great ability. As much as I like Cruz, the Bush gang had their pieces in place, and all was proceeding in their direction.

Cruz needs to be satisfied with VP, and as a young man, that is probably a great gift to him.

They keep meeting, so my sense is that Cruz is regathering the moral majority and Trump is regathering the Reagan democrats and middle class conservatives.

When Trump/Cruz goes live, they will be unbeatable.

And Cruz will then have the background for a presidential run and/or a Supreme Court seat.


36 posted on 08/26/2015 5:51:50 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their Victory!)
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To: xzins

In other words, you’ve just been kidding about all this social conservatism stuff all these years. You know, when some of us said that perhaps we should emphasize liberty and limited government...and you called us worshippers of mammon over God and so on - you were all just kidding about that.

Good to know.


39 posted on 08/26/2015 5:53:26 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again)
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To: xzins
When Trump/Cruz goes live, they will be unbeatable.

That is the rosiest or scenarios and when Ted tells me I can trust DT to hold the lines that MUST be held, then I agree - unbeatable.

Wouldn't it be something to see that coalition announced after Iowa / New Hampshire and before the Southern primaries?

Juggernaut.

57 posted on 08/26/2015 6:04:06 AM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: xzins; C. Edmund Wright; P-Marlowe
If you look at my posts over the last several months you will see that I have been purposely silent about the GOP candidates other than the ones that I reject outright. A lot of this is because I know it's two early to know who will have the momentum come primary time; eight years ago Rudy was way out in front and he was gone by Super Tuesday, twelve years ago it looked like Howard Dean was a lock for the Democrats and his campaigned collapsed on the night of the Iowa Caucus.

As it stands right now, Trump is pretty much running on one issue and it is an issue that has been around for decades.

From a practical standpoint, getting an amendment passed recognizing traditional marriage would be FAR EASIER than building a wall at the Mexican border and deporting all of the illegals.

Look at the makeup of the Supreme Court and their decisions over the past decade, do you think that there's a chance in hell that they would rule that anchor babies aren't citizens under the 14th Amendment? Then there are property issues, many illegals now own property in the US and, while they may be here illegally, the property was acquired legally. Is there a plan to deal with that? I don't support amnesty and I never will; we can certainly build a wall to keep more out, but I don't think that there's any way to get rid of the majority of those that are here.

What people need to be made aware of is the two-fold role that abortion has played in this:
1. America has a manual labor shortage that simply didn't exist four decades ago. It's not that the illegals are doing the jobs that Americans won't do, it's that they're doing the jobs that there aren't enough Americans to do. Talk to the owner of any construction company, there are many jobs (jobs that pay pretty well) that it is impossible to hire Americans for. Go back in history, the problems with illegal aliens began roughly a decade after Roe v. Wade and two decades after the Sexual Revolution began. There was a demand for labor and the illegals came and met the demand.
2. Social Security and Medicare are classic Ponzi schemes; however, most people fail to understand that Ponzi schemes WILL WORK as long as there is a steadily expanding pool of new people to pay into it. Until the 1970s we had that, but with the Sexual Revolution and abortion the population growth began to drop drastically. Now, the illegal aliens filled the gap in the labor pool, but they're paid under the table and don't pay any payroll tax. That's the elephant in the room that none of the politicians will talk about, we need more people to fund the Ponzi schemes.

The real problem with the presidential race is that the Bush family and the GOPe have decimated conservatism over the past quarter century, we have no bench to speak of. GWB didn't have a single person in his administration who could run for president. Trump never would have entered the race if there was a strong pool of candidates, for that matter Cruz probably wouldn't have either (Cruz has the knowledge and he's a real conservative, but he isn't perceived as having the experience).

The best thing the GOP has going for it right now is that Hillary is imploding and anyone can beat Biden. The most critical thing for the GOP is to get Jeb, Christie and Rand Paul out of the race.

98 posted on 08/26/2015 6:54:32 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: xzins

Very interesting. Sounds like a Presidential contender who will win. Somebody tell Trump Planned Butcherhood performs 33% of the USA’s abortions.


184 posted on 08/26/2015 5:12:57 PM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: xzins; C. Edmund Wright; wagglebee; P-Marlowe

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Plain as day at this point, Trump has been called upon to run to block the conservative candidates (chiefly Cruze and Carson) from gaining office.

The MSM are carefully creating anything they can to give Trump all the free face time they can, and there is no sign that they will relent.

Trump doesn’t have to win anything to accomplish his objective. If a conservative gets the nomination, he goes independent as Perot II. He only needs to siphon off enough globalists to throw the election to the Dem.

If you can’t see this, either you’re blind, or you are loving it.
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269 posted on 08/27/2015 11:09:55 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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