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Levin: 'Completely False' That Children Born to Illegals Have Constitutional Right to Citizenship
CNS News ^ | 08/19/2015 | Michael Morris

Posted on 08/19/2015 11:44:28 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

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To: E. Pluribus Unum

US citizenship rules should be the height of simplicity.

1. A person born and one or both parents are US citizens. The only birthright citizenship.

2. A legal entrant to the US who goes through the naturalization process.

Someone might think of an odd exception, but those two conditions would cover 99% plus situations. And that’s probably what was intended until a misinterpretation here and a judicial activist there confused matters.


21 posted on 08/19/2015 12:15:12 PM PDT by Will88
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
My thoughts on how the illegal view of birthright citizenship makes mishmash of international law here.
22 posted on 08/19/2015 12:15:19 PM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I don’t watch Rino Rove Fox ‘news’......have any of the idiot talking heads like Judge Nappy and Yosemite Sam issued a retraction yet?


23 posted on 08/19/2015 12:15:44 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (DEPORT OBOLA VOTERS)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

It is ABUNDANTLY clear that they do. Levin is flat wrong. I’ve done my share of SCOTUS and 4th Cir and E Dist arguments on Constitutional issues. The language is plain as day.

Do I like it? Not at all. But there it is.


24 posted on 08/19/2015 12:16:39 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: Electric Graffiti
They’re not NBCs that’s for sure.

Not any kind of citizen at all apparently.

25 posted on 08/19/2015 12:17:49 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: GraceG

Actually legal jurisdiction in this case probably means no other overriding jurisdiction. As in, not the citizen of any other nation.


26 posted on 08/19/2015 12:18:28 PM PDT by Vic S
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To: DoodleDawg

It’s up to Congress to naturalize them.....not the farking courts.

Get it? Good.


27 posted on 08/19/2015 12:18:56 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (DEPORT OBOLA VOTERS)
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To: Wolfie

Don’t fall for the La Raza nonsense. Illegal are no “slaves.”


28 posted on 08/19/2015 12:20:22 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: holdonnow

Thank God for The Great One.


29 posted on 08/19/2015 12:21:17 PM PDT by McGruff (Trump/Cruz 2016 - My Dream Team)
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To: GraceG
Birthright citizen ship only occurs when a parent is under the jurisdiction (legal jurisdiction, ie citizen) when the child is born.

I was always under the impression that the legal jurisdiction phrase was meant to exclude foreign nationals such as ambassadors and staff who reside here for diplomatic purposes but are under the jurisdiction of their home country.

30 posted on 08/19/2015 12:21:45 PM PDT by oldbrowser (The kangaroos have taken over the supreme court.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

All the big radio hosts are railing against it.

Savage just read Senator Howard’s word’s verbatim written in the Congressional record about the intent and meaning behind the 14th Amendment.

The Establishment will not be able to obscure this issue with nonsense like have in the past and other related issues.


31 posted on 08/19/2015 12:23:13 PM PDT by Red Steel (Ted Cruz: 'I'm a Big Fan of Donald Trump')
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To: DoodleDawg

I’d say it’s arguable that the issuance of the immigrant visa is a conditional acceptance of the individual into the US jurisdiction.


32 posted on 08/19/2015 12:25:08 PM PDT by Nep Nep
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Jeff Sessions Backs Trump On Birthright Citizenship: ‘Absolutely Not An Extreme Position’ [VIDEO]

http://dailycaller.com/2015/08/19/jeff-sessions-backs-trump-on-birthright-citizenship-absolutely-not-an-extreme-position-video/#ixzz3jI5c2rDH


33 posted on 08/19/2015 12:25:14 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Bookmarking this thread. Man this is good stuff.


34 posted on 08/19/2015 12:27:14 PM PDT by SWAMP-C1PHER (G.A.L.T., Government Absent Laissez-faire Technique)
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To: DoodleDawg
So then according to Levin Bobby Jindal and Marco Rubio are not citizens at all, much less natural born citizens?

I think you would get different answers from different people. However, we have the practice of illegal aliens as well as legal non-citizens giving birth in America and these children have citizenship. I would be fine with a law, not a constitutional amendment, that clearly defines citizenship. We already have a law that excludes certain classes of people born in the US from citizenship. As for the natural born part of your question, there needs to be better definition of that from the courts or a constitutional amendment that clarifies the definition.

35 posted on 08/19/2015 12:29:41 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Do Not Vote for List: See my profile)
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Lots of articles, some from surprising sources, have come out today, explaining how the 14th Amendment has been perverted by the courts, the executive branch and Congress over the last 149 years, but nothing is as good as Levin's first hour yesterday.

Even if you hate Levin it is worthwhile to download and listen to at least the first hour of his podcast from 8-18 There, you will learn even the actual intent of the guys that wrote the amendment

36 posted on 08/19/2015 12:29:48 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Of course, we should all realize that one of the implications of Levin’s argument is that Obama is not a natural born citizen, and, therefore, not eligible to hold office.


37 posted on 08/19/2015 12:35:32 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens")
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To: GraceG

United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 US 649 (1898)

The case above is the SCOTUS case on point about “immigrant” children.
There are a number of conditional “factors.”


38 posted on 08/19/2015 12:39:21 PM PDT by Sasparilla (If you want peace, prepare for war.)
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To: RIghtwardHo
It is ABUNDANTLY clear that they do. Levin is flat wrong.

Why don't you call up Levin and debate him?

I heard what Levin said yesterday. I agree with Levin.

39 posted on 08/19/2015 12:40:53 PM PDT by sand88 (We can never legislate our way back to Liberty)
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To: Wolfie

Yep. The tragedy is that most of measures outlined in the 14th amendment to overcome slavery— especially the “due process” clause— have been used as a knife with which to gut the rest of the Constitution and substitute whatever lame-brained idiocy pleases a 5 seat majority on the SCOTUS.


40 posted on 08/19/2015 12:41:04 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens")
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