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I am sometimes perplexed how conversations grow on FR. I am not sure how so much content was directed at me when my orginal post was to "wagglebee" who honestly missed the entire point of my original post and apparently continued to make the same wrong point to me and others. That point is simply, which to your credit you understood, Dr. Carson was under an ethical obligation to make a referral. Apparently, wagglebee only thinks this ethical obligation is for necessary medical needs. As I pointed out and will give another example, this would preclude Catholic Doctors and Pharmacist from providing referral for couple interested in birth control pills.

The Catholic prohibition on Birth Control goes to sexuality in marriage and not to question that life begins at conception. As such Birth Control is acceptable to many Christians but unnecessary to the conservative Catholic health care provider. Taking wagabees point to conclusion, the Catholic health care provider can just act clueless when asked about birth control.

Again, I think you understand this point but you want a pro-life mentality with this doctor. I am sure that eats at Christian Doctors and I hope they refer to abortionist that at least care about the mother. The other choice is for Christians to entirely exist the medical field. Given the growing number of bio-ethical issues, I would find this disturbing.

A doctor, any doctor, who "refers" a woman to an abortionist is just as guilty morally as is the woman and the abortionist. I will violate Godwin's Law by reminding that "I was only following orders" was rightly rejected as a legal defense as to crimes against humanity by the Nuremberg Tribunal responding to the Holocaust. How much more in the way of mass murders do we need to get the point?

It might well have been that Hitler's subordinates who might have refused compliance with the Holocaust might themselves have been taken into custody by the Third Reich and executed for such defiance. Nuremberg, as a precedent, teaches that we are expected to forfeit our own lives rather than to comply with and participate in crimes against humanity rising to the level of the Holocaust.

Our legal system will not arrest, try, convict and execute those who comply with the abortion holocaust. No American doctor would be risking his life, nor even his freedom, by simply refusing co-operation with baby-killing. If the medical profession has been so corrupted as to go after the doctor's license for refusing to co-operate in baby-killing, then the doctor can find other employment or retire but the society should go after those who have so corrupted medicine.

Stalin famously said that a single death is a tragedy but a massive number of deaths is merely a statistic. So it is with 60 million surgically slaughtered innocent babies, courtesy of our elites who always think they know better. Likewise with those millions of others who have been chemically slaughtered. We either believe that each one is a precious human being with a full range of human rights or we do not. I do believe that. Dr. Carson seems to believe that but needs to act consistently on that belief.

SCOTUS inflicted his holocaust on our country and all of those justices responsible have had to face their Creator already. Only Warren Burger ever publicly repented his vote for Roe vs. Wade and most of its judicial progeny. William Rehnquist and Byron White voted morally and had no need to repent.

Finally, except for "caucus threads" limited to members of some specific religious community or other, when we post here anyone may respond. JimRob's living room, JimRob's rules.