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What Donald Trump Doesn’t Know about U.S. Trade
National Review ^ | 08/19/2015 | Kevin D. Williamson

Posted on 08/19/2015 6:42:03 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 08/19/2015 6:42:03 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Oh man it is getting deep and desperate for the Trump haters.


2 posted on 08/19/2015 6:44:57 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Section 20.)
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To: SeekAndFind

That liberal RINO-puke Kevin Williamson appears to be suffering from either an overdose or no dose of whatever meds he ought to be on. His hateful spew would never have been tolerated by William F. Buckley. WFB would have bounced his ass right out the door.


3 posted on 08/19/2015 6:47:16 AM PDT by mkjessup (Iran has an ayatollah for it's 'supreme leader', America has an ASSAHOLLAH !!!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Every "Free Trade" deal includes money to retrain American workers "displaced" by the deal. Why is that?

BTW "displaced" is nice way of saying laid off, mortgage in jeopardy, marital strife and creating a life long socialist.

4 posted on 08/19/2015 6:48:02 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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Actually, I don’t see anything hateful in his article. He’s simply disagreeing with Trump on the issue of trade and laying out his reasons why.

I wish people who post on this thread would argue against the author’s reasoning instead of attacking the man himself.


5 posted on 08/19/2015 6:49:08 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (qu)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Williamson be crowned himself over Trump weeks and weeks ago—and somehow he keeps on digging.


6 posted on 08/19/2015 6:52:18 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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>> That liberal RINO-puke Kevin Williamson <<

If you had the facts on your side, you’d be showing us exactly which facts in the article are wrong.

But no, you can only indulge in childish name calling. Very telling, indeed.


7 posted on 08/19/2015 6:52:59 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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What do you think about the author’s statements about NAFTA?


8 posted on 08/19/2015 6:54:38 AM PDT by goodnesswins (hey..Wussie Americans....ISIS is coming. Are you ready?)
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To: 9YearLurker

Stupid Android:

*beclowned*


9 posted on 08/19/2015 6:54:51 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: SeekAndFind

Take out the first three paragraphs and the last sentence, and you’ve got a spot-on dissertation.


10 posted on 08/19/2015 6:56:35 AM PDT by Walrus (Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice - Barry Goldwater)
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Because people are sick of being lied to by the so called experts. You disagree with the elites and they come back with the same BS. The elites don’t look past their bank accounts. The American people are having to live through the lies.


11 posted on 08/19/2015 6:57:08 AM PDT by cp124 (Government is value subtracted.)
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Williamson lost his position with me by defending NAFTA. NAFTA has been bad for the US. Last time I checked the NAFTA trade board had ruled 100% against the US in complaints about rules violations.


12 posted on 08/19/2015 6:58:43 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Section 20.)
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I can’t remember did Ross Perot surround himself with conservatives like Jeff Sessions?

I mean before dropping out because he claimed that republican operatives were planning to disrupt his daughter’s wedding.


13 posted on 08/19/2015 7:03:20 AM PDT by Leep (Vote Bush! Join the Bush League! Why? Because we say so!)
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To: SeekAndFind
He’s simply disagreeing with Trump on the issue of trade and laying out his reasons why.

Anything that contradicts what Trump says is hateful. Get used to it.

14 posted on 08/19/2015 7:03:58 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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“...a skill that he has had some chance to hone in an embarrassing series of corporate bankruptcies,...”

No need to read any further. No appetite for snark this morning.


15 posted on 08/19/2015 7:04:33 AM PDT by Chaguito
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RE: What do you think about the author’s statements about NAFTA?

I’d like the ground rules for this thread to be this -— LET’s DEBATE THE ISSUE OF TRADE AND REFRAIN FROM ATTACKING PEOPLE PERSONALLY.

So, in answer to your question...

NAFTA has winners and losers, just as Uber’s entrance to the transportation market has winners and losers.

Which is to say, it is NEITHER a miracle nor a disaster.

Let’s start with the most basic measure of economic growth: gross domestic product. Since 1993, the year before Nafta was enacted, U.S. GDP has grown about 63 percent, while Canadian and Mexican GDP have grown 66 percent and 65 percent, respectively, according to data compiled by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development.

Those tightly clustered growth rates are significantly better than the industrialized nations of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development as a whole; their composite GDP has grown about 53 percent since Nafta.

The U.S. trade deficit with Mexico has grown dramatically since Nafta—from a trade surplus of $4 billion in 1993 to a deficit of $54 billion in 2012. Yet in most industries, corporate profit margins have risen over that period. Recently, the U.S.’s deficits with Mexico and Canada have contracted as export growth has accelerated.

As with economic growth, it’s difficult to say with certainty how much of the rise in trade between the U.S. and the other nations is directly attributable to Nafta. Trade liberalization among the U.S., Canada, and Mexico was already underway, and economists say the economic cycle plays a significantly larger role in determining trade volume than Nafta does. In its 2003 report, the CBO found Nafta’s effect on trade had been positive and that had grown in each year since the agreement was enacted. The CBO also concluded that Nafta had wielded a larger effect on U.S. exports than imports.

So what about Ross Perot’s then big fear back then, the labor market?

Estimates of Nafta’s effect on U.S. payrolls vary wildly and depend on methodology. Here’s an unfavorable statistic: Today, there are 12 million manufacturing jobs in the U.S., down from about 17 million when Nafta was enacted.

Of course, to lay all the blame on Nafta would be to ignore a fundamental shift in the makeup of the global labor force. Relatively lax labor laws and lower wage requirements have moved a significant portion of the world’s factories to China and India and Southeast Asia since Nafta.

NAFTA after all, is a North Atlantic agreement, not with China, Asia or India.

Some Nafta supporters say certain job losses were inevitable but that the agreement was so broadly stimulative that the net effect on employment was either negligible or positive. (For what it’s worth, total U.S. employment is up about 22 percent since Nafta was enacted.)

What ever your views on NAFTA, let’s deal with the arguments, not the author himself.


16 posted on 08/19/2015 7:07:32 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (qu)
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RE: Anything that contradicts what Trump says is hateful.

So, Trump is Allah and his word is the Koran now?

When are we going to see beheadings? :)


17 posted on 08/19/2015 7:08:51 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (qu)
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To: Hawthorn; SeekAndFind
If you had the facts on your side, you’d be showing us exactly which facts in the article are wrong.
But no, you can only indulge in childish name calling. Very telling, indeed.


Go back and read some of Williamson's crapola, that will provide you with all the facts you need, here you might try a REAL conservative website instead of what National Review has degraded into:

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/07/the_whinos_and_the_rinos_should_be_friends.html

Happy to help.
18 posted on 08/19/2015 7:12:26 AM PDT by mkjessup (Iran has an ayatollah for it's 'supreme leader', America has an ASSAHOLLAH !!!)
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Thanks...I WAS asking about NAFTA as described by the author....not commenting on the author...so no need to lecture me...sheesh


19 posted on 08/19/2015 7:13:10 AM PDT by goodnesswins (hey..Wussie Americans....ISIS is coming. Are you ready?)
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Most of the free trade agreements has had positive effect on the political and corporate elites bank accounts. At the same time the American people have seen no increase in wages and real inflation (not what the elites call inflation) steadily clime. I think Trump is looking at Free trade be fair trade and not the current one way street. Oh, that’s right, they are going to retrain the future workforce to.........?


20 posted on 08/19/2015 7:25:54 AM PDT by cp124 (Government is value subtracted.)
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