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To: Jim Noble
Lyman Trumbull, author of the Civil Rights Act and the one who inserted the citizenship clause into the 14th amendment along with it’s author Jacob Howard, states “The provision is, that ‘all persons born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens. ‘ That means ‘subject to the complete jurisdiction thereof. ‘What do we mean by ‘complete jurisdiction thereof?’ Not owing allegiance to anybody else. That is what it means.” (Congressional Globe, Senate, 39th Congress, 1st Session, pg 2893)

All persons within the territorial bounds of the United States are subject it's municipal law; all persons within the territorial bounds of the United States are not completely subject to the jurisdiction thereof, they are not members of the civil society.

65 posted on 08/18/2015 5:39:17 PM PDT by Ray76 (When a gov't leads it's people down a path of destruction resistance is not only a right but a duty.)
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To: Ray76

What he meant is irrelevant, what he wrote is what counts.

The USSC has dealt with this over and over.


67 posted on 08/18/2015 6:01:35 PM PDT by Jim Noble (You walk into the room like a camel and then you frown)
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