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Donald Trump and Scott Walker want to repeal birthright citizenship. It’s nearly impossible.
Washington Post ^ | 8/18/15 | Philip Bump

Posted on 08/18/2015 9:17:08 AM PDT by jimbo123

Shortly after Donald Trump released his immigration policy proposal on Monday, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker assured reporters that he agreed with Trump's opposition to "birthright citizenship." The Huffington Post did a quick count and figured that at least five other 2016 Republicans did, too.

"Birthright citizenship" is the idea, introduced in the 14th Amendment, that people born on American soil are automatically American citizens. As Wonkblog's Max Ehrenfreund noted on Monday, there are likely only two ways that the practice could be overturned.

The first would be to somehow convince the Supreme Court to overturn the 1898 ruling, United States v. Wong Kim Ark, which established how the 14th Amendment would be enforced. The first clause in the amendment states that "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside."

Ratified in 1868, the clause was meant to ensure that freed slaves were considered American citizens. Wong was born in San Francisco to Chinese parents, which the Court ruled was sufficient to make him a citizen.

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KEYWORDS: aliens; birthright; deportjebbush; trump; walker
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To: jimbo123

WaPo freaking out. LOL!


61 posted on 08/18/2015 10:01:56 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: chris37

“Who is Scott Walker?”

He is the ‘Me Too’ candidate.


62 posted on 08/18/2015 10:04:30 AM PDT by Gator113 (~~Cruz, OR LOSE~~ Ted Cruz REMAINS the only true Conservative in this race. ~~ just livin' life~~)
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To: Menehune56

Profits regardless of consequences. The results of their relentless greed have been obvious for decades.


63 posted on 08/18/2015 10:05:16 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: jimbo123

What many people want to ignore ,intentionally or unintentionally, including the Fox network judge, are the included wording/requirement of the 14th ‘and subject to the jurisdiction thereof’. When a parent takes an underage child especially a newborn baby back to their country of citizenship with no intention of having the birth countries laws apply to that child, the child cannot claim citizenship of the birth country as applies to US law.


64 posted on 08/18/2015 10:08:46 AM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: ken5050

[[OH S**T...it also takes McConnell and Boehner..]]

After the heat these two nitwits are taking now, they will be ready to be compliant with a new R President. We have
To hope that the Rs have the power position to support the R president. So many are disgusted with the R Party it may
Difficult to actually vote for many of them.


65 posted on 08/18/2015 10:17:38 AM PDT by Calpublican (Republicans fought slavery!!Now the Party stands for nothing!!!!!!)
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To: moehoward

YES.. they leave out the truth EVERY SINGLE TIME!!!


66 posted on 08/18/2015 10:24:19 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchaned our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: Zenjitsuman

It all has to stop.


67 posted on 08/18/2015 10:30:42 AM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: jimbo123; All
Thank you for referencing that article jimbo123. Please bear in mind that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.

"Birthright citizenship" is the idea, introduced in the 14th Amendment, that people born on American soil are automatically American citizens.

FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

Just as with the perverted interpretation of the 14th Amendment by pro-gay activist justices to argue that gay “marriage” is constitutional, key wording in the 14th Amendment concerning birthright is likewise being ignored on behalf of illegals.

14th Amendment, Section 1: All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside [emphasis added]. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

68 posted on 08/18/2015 10:30:56 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: jimbo123
"Donald Trump and Scott Walker want to repeal birthright citizenship. It’s nearly impossible.

Snicker. Riiight, just like giving helicopter rides at the Iowa State Fair was not going to happen. LOLOLOLOL

69 posted on 08/18/2015 10:43:29 AM PDT by TennesseeGirl (Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it. - Edmund Burke 1790)
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To: jimbo123
Well there is a law that has been mis-applied for 75 years or so.

How about it applies to recently freed slaves and native Americans.

Not illegal aliens of late (as in 40 years)

70 posted on 08/18/2015 10:48:40 AM PDT by SERE_DOC ( “The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.” TJ.)
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To: jimbo123
Shortly after Donald Trump released his immigration policy proposal on Monday, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker assured reporters that he agreed with Trump's opposition to "birthright citizenship."
Says it all right there about the phony "me too" Koch snorting frauds.

2 weeks ago his mouth piece was calling Trump names, NOW, Walker can't wait for Trump's next move so he can ask what did Trump say? Oh yea,"me too".

71 posted on 08/18/2015 11:23:04 AM PDT by lewislynn (Meghan Kelley...#sand--Rosie, the Don was right-- Hillary, lipstick on a pig)
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To: jimbo123

“Donald Trump and Scott Walker want to repeal birthright citizenship. It’s nearly impossible.”

Really? So the American people have no say in how the country is run? Only the corporate elites and America-hating Left get a say, and the rest of us just have to live with it?


72 posted on 08/18/2015 11:29:14 AM PDT by Pelham (Deo Vindice)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I don’t see why not; if one or both parents are illegal aliens that, in my mind, makes the baby or babies all illegal aliens and subject to immediate deportation.
The Amendment was originally interpreted by the SC to insure that the children of slaves (not brought here voluntarily) were granted citizenship and subject to all the laws and rights of any ordinary white citizen.
It was not intended to provide a welfare scam to illegal aliens in the 20th and 21st centuries.


73 posted on 08/18/2015 11:33:05 AM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: jimbo123

I believe that any person who, while present on American soil, can be detained and subject to the legal processes of Federal courts is “subject to the jurisdiction of the United States”. This excludes persons with diplomatic immunity (obviously).

I believe XIV has to be amended to end birthright citizenship. Ratification of such an amendment by 38 states is a certainty, it is equally certain that Congress would never submit such an amendment to the states.


74 posted on 08/18/2015 11:33:40 AM PDT by Jim Noble (You walk into the room like a camel and then you frown)
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To: jimbo123

Question:

Does any other country in the world maintain this type of policy?


75 posted on 08/18/2015 11:43:54 AM PDT by relentlessly
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To: jimbo123

Uh, no, it’s very possible.


76 posted on 08/18/2015 12:00:22 PM PDT by bgill ( CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: ken5050

My guess, or maybe hope, is that, if and when Trump get’s the nomination, one of his campaign themes will be

“I’m running to make America great again, but I need a Congress that will work with me. That means a Republican majority, but it also means new Republican leadership. Boehner and McConnell are going to have to go.”


77 posted on 08/18/2015 12:01:51 PM PDT by mbrfl (fightingmad)
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To: jimbo123

Possible or not isn’t relevant in politics. Walker is finally learning the most important lesson of Trumpolitics: Talking a big game is ten times more important than having a record of conservative accomplishments. Talking the talk trumps walking the walk.


78 posted on 08/18/2015 2:12:47 PM PDT by Reaper19
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To: jimbo123

Executive Orders seem to be acceptable when they should not.


79 posted on 08/18/2015 2:46:07 PM PDT by GingisK
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