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Jeb Bush on Donald Trump’s immigration ideas: ‘A plan needs to be grounded in reality’
WaPo ^ | August 17 at 9:50 PM | Ed O'Keefe

Posted on 08/17/2015 9:24:12 PM PDT by Red Steel

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To: KGeorge
‘The amendment that I introduced removed the path to citizenship, but it did not change the underlying work permit from the Gang of Eight,’
The gang of eight plan called for 30 million green cards and an increase in H1B visas.

If you go to Cruz website you'll see where he wants an increase in green cards and H1B visas. Issuing green cards makes them legal with legal benefits

81 posted on 08/18/2015 7:34:33 AM PDT by lewislynn (Meghan Kelley...#sand--Rosie, the Don was right-- Hillary, lipstick on a pig)
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To: Red Steel

What is Jeb!’s plan other than to call illegal immigration an act of love, and amnesty, and more acts of love, with more amnesty?


82 posted on 08/18/2015 7:52:19 AM PDT by odawg
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As I posted on the other Jeb Bush article on "reality":

One can argue about the costs & problems with any attempted solution to the present dynamics, which are completely undermining American cultures in community after community. But the one thing that is totally unrealistic is the insane notion that you can preserve the American values & culture of the Founders, without a drastic policy that addresses the realities on the ground.

The Left has used a massive "bait & switch" strategy, going back at least to the 1950s; but with much earlier roots, to undermine the continuity of American culture & identity. The attack goes like this. They first identify actual mean spirited--even hate driven--attacks on people, based on their race, ethnicity, faith or class. Then they label the motive behind those attacks as "racism," "bigotry," "nativism," or whatever, and gain a certain consensus on that labeling. That is the bait; and most of us can agree up to that point, that what they have labelled, is indeed something bad; something that should be avoided, and condemned.

Then comes the subtle switch. At first by slow degrees, and then in a great propaganda rush; the condemned behavior ceases to be limited to actual misdeeds against victims, and is expanded to include any racial, ethnic or religious identification--indeed any sense of community with people with whom you have shared a common history, kinship, values & identity. In short, expanded to include the social "glue," that provides for the cohesion and continuity of a people.

Because so much of our Academia & the puppets in the media who parrot what the Leftist crackpots in Academia installed in their minds, are themselves totally committed to the lunacy that people are interchangeable; that the apparent differences are merely products of a social environment that can be manipulated & changed by social engineering; much of the public never questions what has happened to common sense.

There is almost no sense of proportion or logical relationships in the public discourse. And unless we find a way to break out of the resulting Pavlovian like conditioning, boys and girls, there is not going to be a recognizable America in the very near future.

Jeb Bush may be a very nice man, personally. He is certainly to be commended for loving his wife. His niceness--his commendable sense of his own family--are not the issues. For whatever reason; whether from what he was conditioned to believe in College, or what he has come to believe with the sort of advisers he has had since; or whether from something innate in his character, he is not the man to be taken seriously on this issue.

I have tried to put this in as nice a way as possible. But we are faced with the question of whether America survives as a people. Trump gets it. Bush does not.

83 posted on 08/18/2015 8:02:37 AM PDT by Ohioan
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Oh, I know. Did you see my link to the Daily Caller article? That was 2 years ago. I imagine it could be even worse now.

(in case you didn’t)

http://dailycaller.com/2013/09/21/cruz-is-in-it-for-cruz/


84 posted on 08/18/2015 8:21:04 AM PDT by KGeorge
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To: Red Steel

Pay no attention to anything the Bush “Illegal alien boot lickers” have to say.


85 posted on 08/18/2015 8:42:08 AM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: Heart-Rest

I forgot who it was who recently called him a turtle. I bet the Chamber of Commerce would love to see this depiction of their chosen POTUS.


86 posted on 08/18/2015 10:13:38 AM PDT by Aria
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Jeb should worry about whether the policy is grounded in law first. Trump’s IS grounded in the law, right down to eliminating anchor babies.


87 posted on 08/18/2015 10:16:31 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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I didn’t mean retroactively either, I meant from time forward when such a change is made in the law.


88 posted on 08/18/2015 10:59:17 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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Something like 6% money export tax sounds about right, and make it to all locations. They could also apply that to all the money being sent to off shore accounts in the Cayman Islands, Tobago and Switzerland. Of course the people doing that are probably also in favor of the flat tax and if not so taxed would use that as a way to avoid any taxation of income.


89 posted on 08/18/2015 7:40:15 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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And if that Putin strategy doesn’t work, then send in a whole bunch of “Mexican” volunteers to overthrow the elected government.


90 posted on 08/18/2015 7:57:08 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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