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To: Jane Long

You people need to get real. You fall for Trump’s B.S. all the time. Judge Napalitano was on the Megan Kelly show and he stated that each person being deported is Constitutionally required to have a hearing and an appeal. The most people ever deported in a year was 250,000. At that rate it would take 44 years to deport all 11 million illegal aliens. I know Trump supporter don’t like facts, but Trump is being disingenuous if he says he is going to deport all 11 million illegal aliens.


95 posted on 08/17/2015 9:33:06 PM PDT by glabbe
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To: glabbe
"Judge Napalitano was on the…"

Can you find in Trump"s immigration paper where it says anything about mass deportation ?

97 posted on 08/17/2015 9:58:42 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: glabbe

You are, no doubt, right about key aspects of his plan. What I like about Trump, however, is that he will gather the best people together to come up with the solutions, as did Regan. Jeff Sessions helped him with the immigration plan, and I have a lot of respect for Sessions. At least Trump is willing to tackle the big issues and not try to talk around them like the other Republicans we’ve fallen for in the past.


99 posted on 08/17/2015 10:00:24 PM PDT by binreadin
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To: glabbe

...11 million illegal aliens.
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Damn! I’m really tiring of hearing that repeated by every talking head on TV! (NOT ranting to you, glabbe)

That’s the number that was being used around 2003. Does everyone believe that number of illegals has not grown in the past 12 years? .....The real number of illegals is probably now closer to 20 million!

Secure the border. Change the law that requires each illegal to get a court hearing before deportation. Give Border Patrol same power as ICE regarding detention and deportation decisions. Fine and imprison employers of illegals. ....Put the criminal illegals on ships from the Gulf of Mexico and drop them off at Tierra del Fuego! Send the non-criminal illegals to their own countries and reduce foreign aid to those countries by x$ per deportee.

Guess I was a little harsh there, but I’m really fed up!


112 posted on 08/17/2015 11:16:07 PM PDT by octex
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To: glabbe

I saw Napolitano’s segment and I think he’s defending the judge fraternity. The Constitution clearly states that a person has to be under the jurisdiction of the United States and illegal aliens are not as are the children of ambassadors and diplomats born in the US. They do not automatically become US citizens based on the location of their birth. This idea of birthright citizenship comes from judges interpreting the Constitution, it is the opposite of what is clearly written. Slaves were under the jurisdiction of the United States, especially after the Union won the Civil War and so were citizens at birth. Illegals clearly are under the jurisdiction of their own countries.


114 posted on 08/17/2015 11:35:48 PM PDT by JMS
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To: glabbe
"You people need to get real. You fall for Trump’s B.S. all the time. Judge Napalitano was on the Megan Kelly show and he stated that each person being deported is Constitutionally required to have a hearing and an appeal. The most people ever deported in a year was 250,000. At that rate it would take 44 years to deport all 11 million illegal aliens. I know Trump supporter don’t like facts, but Trump is being disingenuous if he says he is going to deport all 11 million illegal aliens."

The Judge had a senior moment.

According to him, the 14th Amendment is like a form of 'Impressment' where the USA by mere words on paper CLAIMS the souls of anyone born on it's soil. That is intellectually dishonest because it would require the identical words to be on paper in every other country.

Think about it. Consider a foreign country that has different words, words that say if their citizens have a baby anywhere including here, they claim it's soul. See the conflict? Are we superior?

Furthermore, you can't view the 14th Amendment that way because then that would mean that we claim the souls of children born of tourists, diplomats, foreign prisoners, POW's ( remember WWII ), and most important of all, American Indians.

The good judge is therefore being arbitrary in calling this a slam dunk for Mexican anchor babies with so many other possible exceptions already visited. Arbitrary laws pretty much defeats the entire point of the American Revolution and throwing off the yoke of the King's oppression.

He has always had this mad streak that puts forth the notion that the Constitution applies to everyone including foreigners. In this case he jumps the shark because he now adds in enemy invaders to the list. But since the Founders did not specify in Article IV "and to protect the states from invasion and violence" that invaders need be armed with muskets, all we can surmise is that the Judge believes the Constitution is a suicide pact. ;-)

As for your static math, it sucks. All static math sucks in a fluid environment. This is a dynamic system with positive and negative feedbacks. Self-Deportation is the main mechanism that comes into play once the precedent is set an publicized of invaders being deported out the back door. A simple law until we get a Constitutional Amendment that says "No person that enters the USA illegally shall ever be granted citizenship under any circumstances" would ignite an exodus. Ten years perhaps less, perhaps more. Every one that leaves is an improvement, or don't you believe that? Yes, in California, toilets would be going uncleaned and yards going unattended, and the jet set mansions would fall into disarray. Cry me a river.

116 posted on 08/18/2015 12:20:58 AM PDT by Democratic-Republican
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To: glabbe
"Judge Napalitano"
If you are still here glabbe, put on Levin right now for a discussion of this. Levin Tuesday 8/18 opening monologue.
147 posted on 08/18/2015 3:11:36 PM PDT by Democratic-Republican
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