Posted on 08/17/2015 8:44:37 AM PDT by Enlightened1
“Pardon me, but I consider California to be a lunatic state, and one cannot put much stock in their reasoning or their doings. They are simply a collection of wealthy kooks. “
They’re coming for you via fedgov:
They won’t stop with the kiddo vaccines.
She uses official data and numbers on mortality, morbidity and safety. Good read.
BTW, you are aware that having mumps prior to puberty is protective of ovarian cancer in women, right? If I could have found a mumps party for my kids before puberty I’d have signed them right up. Ovarian cancer is just evil:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20559706
Do read the mortality and morbidity graphs in this paper:
http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=768249#
Of that I am well aware. We are being herded around, and being browbeaten into complying with the Liberal world view.
I really don't like being on the side of defending Government, but there are some cases where what it does is necessary to maintain a functional society.
It often doesn't do them, or it doesn't do them properly, but it still has need and obligation to do them.
There ya go. Good call. :-)
Then invest in those shirts from the 80’s. You know the ones, they had roll up sleeves with tabbed buttons to hold them up. You’ll need them.
They won’t be stopping with the one or two vaccines YOU think are important.
And you’ll never know what else is in those vaccines either.
Look up SV-40. It contaminated all the early polio vaccines. Know anyone with soft tissue cancer like Lymphomas?
“Last I heard they grew vaccines in chicken eggs, and I see no reason why anyone would add Mercury or Aluminum to them on purpose. “
Well sadly they have not consulted with you before doing just that.
Given that vaccines predate my arrival on this planet by a very long time, I can see where they didn't have much of an opportunity to ask my opinion before proceeding.
I have since learned that the Mercury is bound to a Sulfur atom, and is apparently satisfactorily confined enough to suit most of the experts in the field.
Well first you said you couldn’t believe Big Pharma would put mercury and albion (you forgot fetal tissue and formaldehyde) in vaccines. Now that I have enlightened you you think its OK because the manufacturer’s “expert” says so. LOL!
What I think is that some people obsess over these issues till they jump the shark.
I think under the circumstances of necessary and proper vaccination, the government should force vaccination or force quarantine. Under circumstances in which the benefits or risks are less clear, they should leave it up to people to decide for themselves.
It is a very straightforward and sensible position, and doesn't require me to jump into the minutia of quibbling about specific vaccines and the trivia of what was added to them and why and how dangerous it is to humans. They used to use Mercury to fill teeth, and i've know people who lived into their nineties with no adverse consequences from it.
We all have to rely on experts from fields in which we are not experts ourselves, and if the experts are going to mislead us, then I don't know what to tell you about that. Dismissing everyone in the field as a paid stooge of the manufacture is just conspiracy mongering in my opinion.
Here’s the deal if you think vaccines are safe and effective then you have the right to take them. If not then you have the right to say no. Its supposed to be a free country. Either you are free or you are not. Ben Carson’s problem is that he has never given enough thought to some of these subjects to form an intelligent opinion and now he’s trying to do it all on the fly. He’s not ready to be President. He needs to run for congress.
What’s a R/N?
Vaccines just let the weak survive.............
And kinda lackadaisical...or none existent with ILLEGAL ALIENS!
Here's the deal. You don't have a right to sh*t in the swimming pool because other people also swim in the water.
When your child spreads a dangerous disease because you (the child doesn't know any better) don't like vaccines, then you are endangering other folk.
This of course does not apply if you self quarantine, but I expect you want to remain susceptible and still mingle with the rest of the population.
When your children spread disease because you have not bothered to immunize them, you are "sh*tting in the swimming pool." You don't have a right to do that.
You can chose to stay out of the pool, or you can choose to get protected. Again, this is regarding serious and deadly diseases, not merely inconvenient or "potentially cancer causing at some future date", diseases.
Its supposed to be a free country.
You don't have the freedom to place other people's lives at risk of death or debilitation. It is first and foremost necessary that it continue to be a country, for if it cannot even do that, then freedom is gone anyway.
Nobody’s child is spreading dangerous diseases except illegal aliens. You need to stop with the hysterics. Everyone has a right to decide what is dangerous or not dangerous for themselves and their kids.
Vaccines are dangerous. Some more than others. Some vaccines are more important than others. Just because somebody comes up with a new vaccine to prevent ingrown toenails doesn’t mean you need to run out and get one.
Pnuemonia and shingles are not contagious anyway.
Should you get your kid vaccinated for whooping cough, small pox and polio before they go to school? Probably. Mumps and measles and chickenpox? Maybe maybe not. Should you do it when they are newborns? No. 18 mos old? Maybe. 2-3 years old? More likely.
But you don’t get to decide for everybody else.
Yes they are, and we should not put up with it.
Everyone has a right to decide what is dangerous or not dangerous for themselves and their kids.
They do when it is uncertain and there is no consensus. They do not when it is certain, clear cut, and there is a very strong consensus. Then it becomes foolhardy.
Vaccines are dangerous. Some more than others. Some vaccines are more important than others. Just because somebody comes up with a new vaccine to prevent ingrown toenails doesn’t mean you need to run out and get one.
I have no disagreement with this.
Pnuemonia and shingles are not contagious anyway.
It is my understanding that Pneumonia can be caused by multiple pathogens and other factors, so I don't see how they can create a vaccine for it, and as for shingles, it is my understanding that it is a consequence of the chicken pox virus. Painful (i've had it before) but not the sort of health threat to which I am referring.
Should you get your kid vaccinated for whooping cough, small pox and polio before they go to school? Probably. Mumps and measles and chickenpox? Maybe maybe not.
Unless I see some good reasons not to do so, I think school children should be given vaccines for Mumps, Measles, and Chickenpox.
But you don’t get to decide for everybody else.
It isn't "me" making the decision, it's the facts. I just don't deny them when they make the decision obvious. When apprised of the facts, you have to make a decision *NOT* to give these children vaccines, because after you are apprised of the risks and consequences involved, the default sane position needs no further support. It is the people challenging the position of prudence who need to argue against the weight of the evidence.
“Unless I see some good reasons not to do so, I think school children should be given vaccines for Mumps, Measles, and Chickenpox.”
Good hold your kid’s little arm out and get them.
Name all the epidemics currently raging throughout America at the moment from everybody’s infected kids.
You mean during the conditions of mass inoculation under which we have been living for more than half a century? If your point is to demonstrate how successful it is, I think you would be hard put to come up with a better example.
That being said, i've been hearing of West Nile and Malaria in California, but like I said, those people are kooks.
Well maybe they will come up with a vaccine for West Nile and Malaria and then you can run down and get your kids vaccinated for that too. :-)
If they demonstrate it's effectiveness and safety then I may very well do that, but we don't get a lot of Malaria or West Nile around here. Yet.
I expect the illegals will be bringing it in eventually though.
Deal with what I wrote. Your strawman argument a days your insult combine to form your abject failure.
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