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Daily Times See realtime coverage Indonesian plane with 54 people on board missing
Reutuers ^ | 8/16/15 | KANUPRIYA KAPOOR AND FERGUS JENSEN

Posted on 08/16/2015 6:38:40 AM PDT by Kartographer

An Indonesian twin-turboprop aircraft carrying 54 people lost contact with air traffic control on Sunday in the remote, forested eastern Papua region, the National Search and Rescue Agency (BASARNAS) said, with search efforts hampered by failing light as night falls.

"We can't confirm it has crashed. We can say contact has been lost with the plane," BASARNAS chief Bambang Soelystyo told Reuters by telephone.

"It's a Trigana airline plane carrying 54 people including five crew. We are working to get more details."

(Excerpt) Read more at in.reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: atr42; indonesia; lost; papuanewguinea; planecrash; planelost; triganaair
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Here we go again!
1 posted on 08/16/2015 6:38:40 AM PDT by Kartographer
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To: Kartographer

Apparently it’s not safe to fly on aircraft from Indonesia.


2 posted on 08/16/2015 6:52:55 AM PDT by StormEye
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To: StormEye

That’s a bit of xenophobia showing through. You have no idea how much air travel takes place in Indonesia - a country made up of over 10,000 islands, all linked by air.

Say you have an air crash in the United States - and there have been MANY, would you announce that it’s not safe to fly on aircraft from the United States?

Also, you need to know that the ATR42 is from Europe (France and Italy), not Indonesia.


3 posted on 08/16/2015 7:01:17 AM PDT by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: StormEye

Having done considerable flying over the Owen Stanley Mt. range in Papua back 50 years ago I can attest to the fact that flying there is no picnic. The skies are not friendly and the terrain is as inhospitable as any you will find anywhere. Also at that time there were still headhunters roaming the countryside. Not a place to make an unscheduled landing for certain.


4 posted on 08/16/2015 7:01:38 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Kartographer

Wreckage found:

http://www.rt.com/news/312571-indonesia-aircraft-missing-papua/


5 posted on 08/16/2015 7:03:11 AM PDT by rdl6989
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To: John Valentine

“The airline has been on the EU’s list of banned carriers since 2007. Airlines on the list are barred from operating in European airspace due to either concerns about safety standards or the regulatory environment in their country of registration.”

The above quote from the article is not xenophobic at all. Are you collectivist of some stripe or another?

I can guarantee to you that the US has way more flights on a daily basis than Indonesia, but you do not see the Europeans banning US air carriers like they do with third world countries. The Europeans have very good reasons to ban such airlines.

If you can find a list of American air carriers that the Europeans have banned I’d be more than happy for you to post that here with links included.

Thanks for flying with Hydrazine Airlines - where every flight could be your last! Make it an exciting and explosive flight! Make it Hydrazine!

LOL!


6 posted on 08/16/2015 7:14:52 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Kartographer; All


7 posted on 08/16/2015 7:22:18 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: John Valentine
xenophobia

You say that as though it's a bad thing.

8 posted on 08/16/2015 7:23:24 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Kartographer

In related news: people are still flying Indonesian Air.


9 posted on 08/16/2015 7:59:51 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Death before disco.)
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To: StormEye

Apparently it’s not safe to fly on aircraft from Indonesia.

Indeed, that is proven statistically by Nate Silver and Crew, like them or not:http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/downed-airasia-flight-took-off-from-the-worst-major-country-for-air-safety-oversight/


10 posted on 08/16/2015 8:12:14 AM PDT by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G. K. Chesterton))
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To: Kartographer

Deja vu all over again.


11 posted on 08/16/2015 8:13:58 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: John Valentine
"That’s a bit of xenophobia showing through.

Phobia --- yes. Xenophobia -- that's not really the correct use of that word. So far there have three crashes of aircraft from Indonesia during a relatively short period of time. (Yes, I know, one was shot down.) Now, there might be a fourth. One doesn't have to be a genius to see that something is very wrong with the air travel business in Indonesia. It can't all be due to bad luck.

12 posted on 08/16/2015 8:46:42 AM PDT by StormEye
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Why would hydrazine be anywhere near an airplane?


13 posted on 08/16/2015 10:05:18 AM PDT by dinodino
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To: Hieronymus

Garuda is actually a good airline.


14 posted on 08/16/2015 10:06:19 AM PDT by dinodino
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To: dinodino
Have you ever seen a C-130 with JATO units?


Strap some hydrazine-burning rocket motors on your airline's aircraft and you'll be able to do short-field takeoffs at max weight!
15 posted on 08/16/2015 10:15:26 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: dinodino

“Why would hydrazine be anywhere near an airplane?”

Well, if I’m flying on your airplane...


16 posted on 08/16/2015 10:16:14 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Kartographer

17 posted on 08/16/2015 10:20:40 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

That’s funny right there.


18 posted on 08/16/2015 10:34:14 AM PDT by rdl6989
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To: StormEye

When was one shot down?


19 posted on 08/16/2015 10:42:31 AM PDT by punchamullah
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"When was one shot down?"

The flight over the Ukraine, brought down by a Russian missile. I forgotten what it's flight number was. Sorry, that was Malaysian Airlines flight 17 -- Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur. My mistake. But still, that's three aircraft from the same region that have gone down plus another one is now supposedly missing. I think that says something about how those airlines are operated.

20 posted on 08/16/2015 11:22:49 AM PDT by StormEye
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