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Game Change: Trump Consults with Sen Jeff Sessions on Immigration Strategy
Breitbart ^ | 08/14/2015 | Julia Hahn

Posted on 08/14/2015 8:19:19 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

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To: Aria

I highly recommend that you do read his book. You will see that he is much more conservative than people here are willing to give him credit for.


261 posted on 08/15/2015 8:35:20 AM PDT by Amntn
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To: RKBA Democrat; odawg
Yes, you're quite correct, I want specifics from Trump and I concede that I want more specifics from Trump that I want from conventional conservative candidates like Cruz or Walker. I think we are entitled to more from Trump for two reasons, first he comes at us saying I, me, Donald Trump, is the solution; second, because he has a biography which screams at us that he is not a conservative. It should be unnecessary now to recount all of his positions in the past which he has flip-flopped on and which were never remotely conservative.

This discussion about specifics from Trump grew out of my observation that he is philosophically incoherent and therefore we cannot rely on him following through on conservative remedies offered by Sen. Sessions. His biography warns us to be cautious. This is relevant in the context you raised about our dream team taking us into Iraq, and observation I made some posts ago today saying it is the job of the president to evaluate with wisdom what his experts tell him and to consider their data and recommendations in the context of his political philosophy. Therefore, it is very important to ask what is Trump's foundational political philosophy? Does he have one or is it all ad hoc and ego?

I quite agree with you about elections being about slogans and not about policy papers. Only a fool would argue that Trump is not good at slogans. But Trump is also not good at taking care not to offend a huge chunk of the electorate and that is relevant when at every turn we are told by his supporters that his grotesqueries do not matter because he is Teflon. That thesis remains to be tested above the 23% mark. In other words Trump is being touted as inevitable because he is inevitable or at least the winner because he is a winner. That kind of logic crashes like a house of cards if anyone notices that the Emperor has no clothes.

I do not dispute trumps patriotism, I dispute his vision.

I think your 1856 analogy is not far from the mark.

Thank you for the kind words about the Vietnam replies.


262 posted on 08/15/2015 8:42:54 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: CatherineofAragon

“Of course! That must be it! Anyone who says a negative word about Trump is a hater. He must be praised, and then we know the source is valid.”

Reverse “hater” to “truth-teller” and you have described yourself. And your sources, as you have stated, is “anyone”.


263 posted on 08/15/2015 8:43:16 AM PDT by odawg
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To: LS

Agree and then a life time appointment to SC


264 posted on 08/15/2015 8:43:31 AM PDT by hoosiermama (psalm 150;3 Praise him with the sound of the TRUMPet!h.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The following is a quote from Trump’s book “The America We Deserve” published in 2000. How long has Walker held his views on the subject?

“It comes down to this: We must take care of our own people first. Our policy to people born elsewhere should be clear: Enter by the law, or leave.”

Trump, Donald (2000-01-15). The America We Deserve (Kindle Locations 1685-1686). St. Martin's Press. Kindle Edition.

265 posted on 08/15/2015 8:49:08 AM PDT by Amntn
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To: odawg

As the song says, keep on believin.’


266 posted on 08/15/2015 8:50:47 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office."))
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To: jsanders2001

In my “perfect world” Trump calls in leaders of both House & Senate. Tells them that all crimes committed against the nation by progressives in & out of Congress will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Leaders of Congress are perp-walked off the White House grounds & the cleansing of progressivism is underway.


267 posted on 08/15/2015 9:06:53 AM PDT by TheStickman
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To: CatherineofAragon

I agree and Cruz is the top guy on my list right now.


268 posted on 08/15/2015 9:09:03 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Trump campaign ad: Trump, in his Apprentice chair, saying "America, you're hired")
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To: nathanbedford

...Cruz has shown improvement after the last debate and he is daily announcing staff operations in various states. He is in a good post position long before we turn the final pole and go into the home stretch.

But I would be less than honest if I did not concede that I would be much happier Cruz’s numbers were more robust and I wish he excited more numbers out on the stump...

I understand where you are coming from. Just my opinion, Cruz is a Senator, therefore he is part of the problem in the minds of a lot of people. I realize he says he is different, he has taken positions against the “Washington Cartel” but he has also taken positions in support of them.

My congressman, Mark Amodei, campaigned as a staunt conservative and was elected by a landslide. My senator, Dean Heller, campaigned as a staunt conservative and was elected by a landslide, both promising to stop Obama. Both of them lied or at least fell right in with the program as soon as they got to Washington. Bribed/blackmailed??? or just say anything to get elected. I will have a very hard time ever believing another politician. I think many people are in the same place. We have been lied to by just about everyone in Washington, how many times should we believe one of them is telling the truth before we wake up?

This country doesn’t have the time left to take the chance.


269 posted on 08/15/2015 9:27:04 AM PDT by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: Windflier

...If they think 2014 was a wave election, they ain’t seen nuthin’ yet!...

From your mouth to God’s ear, I so pray it is so.


270 posted on 08/15/2015 9:28:28 AM PDT by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: Windflier

“The man is smart enough to see what’s plainly before his eyes, which, oddly enough, seems to be an extraordinary skill in this era.”

I’m glad you wrote that, I was beginning to wonder if I were the only one who sees it that way.


271 posted on 08/15/2015 9:32:51 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Racism is racism, regardless of the race of the racist.)
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To: Gene Eric
That same event came to mind for me. Henry Ford, though not a perfect human being, was a brilliant industrialist, the Bill Gates of his time. The Rouge plant, the rubber plantations, the mines, the moving assembly line, parts standardization...he left a lasting imprint on the world.

Not bad for an ignoramus with buttons on his desk.

Trump bashers, take note.

272 posted on 08/15/2015 9:36:30 AM PDT by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the eGOP does not want you.)
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To: rikkir

Please write. You have nothing to lose and much to gain, it’s worth the effort. What you view as entitlements are things you worked for and paid for your entire working career.


273 posted on 08/15/2015 9:41:05 AM PDT by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: LongWayHome
If Trump's numbers change it will happen because he moved opinion. That's what leaders do. As I recall Reagan's negatives were pretty high at this point in the campaign also. There's still a lot of rubber chicken and babies to go.

I have the chance to get outside the bubble of like minded friends, was talking to a guy Thursday who wanted to talk politics. No Hillary, period. Feared Cruz because he was some kind of fundamentalist. Has doubts about Trump, but liked his fearlessness.

There's still time to move opinion. Again, that's what leaders do.

274 posted on 08/15/2015 9:58:37 AM PDT by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the eGOP does not want you.)
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To: Windflier
At least with RR...he knew what he thought because he'd spent so much time talking about it. Trump is an unfinished product.

I was a little concerned with what I'd heard described as his comments on PP. Yet the position I heard as a quote was eminently reasonable: PP 'does a lot of good work,' but as long as they do abortions we shouldn't fund them.

I don't know if that was deliberate but it's actually a clever statement that cuts to the heart of the big lie.

275 posted on 08/15/2015 10:11:15 AM PDT by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the eGOP does not want you.)
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To: qaz123

John Bolton.


276 posted on 08/15/2015 10:14:38 AM PDT by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the eGOP does not want you.)
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To: Windflier

Chief Justice...after two terms as VP and Prez.


277 posted on 08/15/2015 10:17:05 AM PDT by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the eGOP does not want you.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
See what Senator Sessions' report has to reveal about the one million green cards handed out each year and the impact on us.
278 posted on 08/15/2015 10:17:50 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Windflier

Very astute analysis.


279 posted on 08/15/2015 10:18:45 AM PDT by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the eGOP does not want you.)
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To: firebrand

+1.


280 posted on 08/15/2015 10:21:42 AM PDT by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the eGOP does not want you.)
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