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To: Leaning Right; Jan_Sobieski

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>> “ But an unvaccinated child can do harm to a vaccinated child.” <<

That is about the absurdest statement I have read in years.

Vaccinations cause more deaths than the natural occurances of disease ever could.

The lion’s share of reported measles deaths are the result of the vaccine itself.

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67 posted on 08/14/2015 8:59:44 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
The lion’s share of reported measles deaths are the result of the vaccine itself.

I don't know about that, but it seems reasonable. But it's a false argument! And it's a false argument because so many people in America are already vaccinated that a measles death is relatively rare.

So consider a country where, say, only 20% of the population is vaccinate against measles. Then your statement certainly would not be true.

78 posted on 08/14/2015 9:10:11 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: editor-surveyor

“Vaccinations cause more deaths than the natural occurances of disease ever could.

The lion’s share of reported measles deaths are the result of the vaccine itself.”

Wow, total logic fail there. You’re making an apples-to-oranges comparison, since non-vaccine related measles are only so low nowadays because NEARLY EVERYONE is vaccinated against the disease.

Instead, a proper comparison would be to compare the number of measles vaccine deaths to the number of measles deaths over a similar period BEFORE the vaccine became available. Let’s do that.

This anti-vax site claims 108 measles-vaccine related deaths over 10 years (source: http://healthimpactnews.com/2015/zero-u-s-measles-deaths-in-10-years-but-over-100-measles-vaccine-deaths-reported/). Now, it’s an anti-vax site so I’ll assume their numbers are at least not underestimated.

Now the measles vaccine came out in the 1960s, so let’s see how many died in the 1950s of the measles. According to this site (http://jid.oxfordjournals.org/content/189/Supplement_1/S1.long):

“From 1956 to 1960, an average of 450 measles-related deaths were reported each year...”

So we have 108 deaths over 10 years with the vaccination, versus about 4500 deaths over a similar period, before the vaccination. That’s the real comparison you need to be making.


97 posted on 08/14/2015 9:37:44 AM PDT by Boogieman
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