[Lazamataz]

Either way, I think the GOP as we know it is done after this election. The anger/rage at the GOPe and candidate picking is just too great. With Romney, there was not a viable alternative. Now there is-—many-—and ANY not named Bush can beat Hillary.

Normally I would discount this as wishful thinking, but I place stock in what you have to say. You're a smart fellow.

I pray you are correct, because the GOP today is a second Democrat Party.

[C. Edmund Wright]

I agree, the GOP e is forever weakened IMO. Now how weak? Time will tell, but I think we’ve crossed a (much needed) rubicon.

[LS]

It is. But look at history. What happened to the second Democrat Party in the 1850s when they no longer represented what their voters wanted? They're called the Whigs, and they're gone.

But, hey, I am optimistic. It might take one more cycle, but the damage the elites have done to themselves is obvious in the campaigns of Fiorina, Cruz, Carson, and Trump. It's no secret why two or three of those four are at the top of every poll and why Jeb is struggling to get into the top four anywhere.