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To: jjsheridan5
What you say is true, yet it doesn't matter. The Democrats have a solidified base that will vote for them in droves no matter what controversy surrounds their candidate. I'm amazed the previous elections have been as close as they have been.

If we split to a third party it will be a disaster. And to those who say, "I hope Trump goes third party and diverts enough votes so the GOP establishment will see that we mean business!" is the dumbest thing I've heard.

48 posted on 08/10/2015 7:32:43 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: thefactor
The stickiness of the Democrat vote is the most overplayed hand out there. Yes, there is a section of the Democrat vote which is built in. But there is no evidence that it is as great as the people like Rove claim. (People like Rove make this claim, in order to justify their turning easy wins into hard ones, and winnable into losing). For nearly 30 years, we have been churning out establishment Republican candidates, that, by their nature, have zero appeal to the semi- or non-conservative wings of the Reagan coalition (blue collar democrats, working class blacks/hispanics, non/semi religious white females). On the rare occasion that a non-establishment candidate wins, say, a senate primary, they find themselves fighting not just one, but two political parties. Basically, this whole "solidified base" nonsense is just that. There are droves of disaffected democrats. It is just that the Republicans never offer them a choice.

You shouldn't be amazed that the elections have been that close. You should be amazed that people still buy into what the Rovian DC establishment has been selling them.
54 posted on 08/10/2015 7:44:28 AM PDT by jjsheridan5 (The next Ronald Reagan will not be a Republican, but rather a former Republican)
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To: thefactor
And to those who say, "I hope Trump goes third party and diverts enough votes so the GOP establishment will see that we mean business!" is the dumbest thing I've heard.

I haven't heard anyone say that. I'm not saying that people aren't saying that, just that I haven't heard it. What I have heard people say is that the GOPe is as anti-conservative as every other wing of the DC cartel, and, because of their phony "closeness" to conservatism, create the most damage to conservatism. As far as 3rd party, what I have heard is, paraphrased: "Trump cannot remove that option, or the GOPe will cheat without hesitation, and will cheat as much as they have to in order to ensure that their anti-conservative block remains in complete control." A far cry from: "I hope Trump goes third party and diverts enough votes so the GOP establishment will see that we mean business!"
58 posted on 08/10/2015 7:49:44 AM PDT by jjsheridan5 (The next Ronald Reagan will not be a Republican, but rather a former Republican)
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