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Wastewater spill from Colorado gold mine triples in volume: EPA
Reuters on Yahoo ^ | 8/9/15 | Steve Gorman

Posted on 08/09/2015 7:00:02 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: Lurker
So who is paying the billions in fines and going to prison?

LOL, you forgot, revisit the IRS scandal. Government is never accountable to laws, fines, we the people. This EPA thing is yet another example of big government gone awry - doing worse things than inaginable.

101 posted on 08/10/2015 10:04:57 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: NormsRevenge

It’s just a nasty color, no mention of the poisonous heavy metals. So they not only have no acountability, they are already covering it up and not telling us the whole truth.

Throw them in jail, close down the EPA.


102 posted on 08/10/2015 10:08:42 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: 1Old Pro
They are barely covering it.

Now, imagine if this was Exxon or Dupont (or whoever) that caused this. It would be 24/7 coverage.

This affects a lot of people now. Seeing as so many have had to leave the once populous northeast and midwest areas--many of them have come here to places like Colorado, Arizona and Nevada.

103 posted on 08/10/2015 10:12:28 AM PDT by riri (Obama's Amerika--Not a fun place.)
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To: Polynikes
The Colorado supplies 90% of the water for Las Vegas and over 50% of the water in California south of the Tehachipi. This has the potential for an evironmental disaster of monumental proportions.

Does anyone remember how GW Bush was hammered for not wanting to continue Clinton's enviro regulations that would have required all municipal water to keep arsenic below 10 parts per million? A ridiculously expensive proposition for many towns and cities.

Albuquerque Battles to Leave Arsenic in the Water

And now the EPA has dumped arsenic, lead and mercury into the water by the ton.

Obama Administration vs. Tombstone

(the short version of the story is that the 0bama Admin. attempts to wipe Tombstone off the map over arsenic in one of its two wells.)


104 posted on 08/10/2015 11:26:43 AM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: riri

NONE of them are in government.


105 posted on 08/10/2015 1:17:32 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: JimSEA
Yes it would appear that the water level in the mine was above the surrounding grade.

The first rule of starting any project is to understand the current status of your site.

They obviously neglected to do a thorough exploration of mine and had no idea that the water level in mine was that far above grade. If they had they would have been more careful disturbing ground near an active seep.

The other thing that in retrospect should been done is making a study of the mine architecture relative to the ground surface to determine the likely source of the seeps.

Had they done that study they may have known that a shaft was close to the surface at that point and avoided disturbing the ground.

Of course depending on the age of the mine drawing may or may not be available.

Regardless of that the first thing that needed to be determined was the water level in the mine. The hydraulic pressure on the seep would be dependent on the height of the water in the mine.

Had they determined the height of water in the mine they might have had some idea of the problems they faced.

106 posted on 08/10/2015 3:39:45 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: NormsRevenge
From the stain on the rocks up to the high water line in the "before" photo, I'd suspect that something like this has happened in the past...


107 posted on 08/10/2015 4:46:48 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: riri; hal ogen
"I am convinced there are about two dozen competent people left in the world. "

There are definitely more than that -- but NONE of them are employed by any government entity.

108 posted on 08/10/2015 4:55:19 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: NormsRevenge

I am not familiar with those rivers. Which rivers will it take from there and where does it end up?

If it is California they are going to be p- ssed.


109 posted on 08/10/2015 4:56:20 PM PDT by Ditter ( God Bless Texas!)
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To: Pontiac

I wonder if they had any mining people or just environmental engineers. Most likely they wouldn’t tarnish their organization with people who once worked in a capitalist enterprise. One of the very few competent federal agencies I’ve dealt with was MSHA during the time period when they hired experienced miners.


110 posted on 08/10/2015 5:27:21 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: JimSEA
One of the very few competent federal agencies I’ve dealt with was MSHA during the time period when they hired experienced miners.

How Old Are You?

Did you know Harry Truman personally?

111 posted on 08/10/2015 5:33:55 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Pontiac

LOL I do very much remember Harry. I was also a member of the Mine - Mill Union before the Steelworkers took them over. I also remember the Sunshine Mine Fire.


112 posted on 08/10/2015 5:47:34 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: Ditter


113 posted on 08/10/2015 5:54:54 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (SEMPER FI!! - Monthly Donors Rock!!)
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To: JimSEA
Most likely they wouldn’t tarnish their organization with people who once worked in a capitalist enterprise. .

Well now that we have established that you are older than me (by the way even pre-Cambrian fossils aren’t that old) I have to say that only true believers are hired by the EPA and capitalist just don’t fit the mold.

114 posted on 08/10/2015 6:31:15 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: JimSEA
Found an interesting article about the Sunnyside Mine.

If you don’t want to read the whole thing start at the paragraph that starts “In 1959, the Standard Metals Corporation”

Gladstone Colorado .

115 posted on 08/10/2015 6:55:28 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Pontiac

“The Sampson Mine still holds the record for a single shipment of gold. The shipment showed an assay value of $180,000.00 per ton”

Talk about a glory hole.


116 posted on 08/10/2015 7:10:54 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: WildHighlander57

http://nationalmap.gov/streamer/webApp/streamer.html

Enter “Animas River” in the search. Find “Silverton CO” on the map.

Click on “Trace map Downstream”

Click on the Animas River to see where it goes.


117 posted on 08/10/2015 7:24:59 PM PDT by 1FreeAmerican
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To: Lurker

The mine owner.


118 posted on 08/11/2015 5:19:40 AM PDT by EBH (There's a sucker born every minute)
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