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TRUMP AND THE REAGAN-BUSH DIVIDE
The American Spectator ^ | August 8, 2015 | Jeffrey Lord

Posted on 08/08/2015 7:40:09 AM PDT by Hojczyk

Among other things, it says that the party of “bold colors” that a triumphant Reagan left in the hands of the GOP Establishment has been, if you will, Bushized. Remade from the winning party of Reagan into a moderate GOP/Establishment-run party of what Reagan disdained as “pale pastels.”

Perpetually timid, endlessly bungling of presidential elections, the 2012 version producing a so-called “autopsy” report that called for even more of what makes the party of GOP moderates a record-setting loser. At the congressional level its leadership campaigns in the style of Reagan’s bold colors — yet once elected governs in the style of Bush-style caution, all too willing to find an excuse not to confront its opposition on issues until the mythical “next time” — a myth because in fact the “next time” never arrives.

In the end, amid the collapse of a supposed “dream ticket” that would have paired Reagan with ex-rival and former president Gerald Ford, with time running out Bush became the fallback choice. Setting in motion the eventual succession in 1988, with Bush campaigning as Reagan’s heir for what was called in the day “Reagan’s third term.”

Except, of course, it wasn’t.

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To: dragonblustar

McConnell isn’t running for president, I will not defend him. Trumps statements on Healthcare give him away. If you put lipstick on a pig...


21 posted on 08/08/2015 8:26:37 AM PDT by exnavy (Common sense seems to be uncommon these days.)
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To: dragonblustar

He’s a conservative in some respects today. But he wasn’t a conservative yesterday, he was a NYC crony capitalist liberal.

We need a consistent conservative, not a campaign conservative.


22 posted on 08/08/2015 8:27:10 AM PDT by MN_Mike (Let's get it right)
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To: exnavy

“Why would you say Trump or Cruz. You’ve chosen a liberal and a conservative. I don’t get it.”

I think folks want to believe Trump has had a “come to Jesus moment”. Where he has seen the ugly side of both parties and now is on a crusade to fix what’s wrong.
Trump is a big business man and as a big business man i suspect you use as few words to sell or buy whatever you are selling and buying.
You pay someone for a favor or you do a favor for a favor.
Alot of it is wining and dining with the end results you get what you want. If it requires contributing money to politicians that is what you do.
Trump said “he told Hillary to come to his wedding” He told her not ask,wow.
That is how it works in the “real world”
Trump is no Reagan. Although, i know Reagan made business like deals, some he didn’t like, in order to get what he wanted.
However, Reagan was genuinely a conservative and most, a least on our side, were comfortable and trusted him.


23 posted on 08/08/2015 8:31:01 AM PDT by Leep (Still living in what remains of 'God's Country'.)
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To: Leep

Trump has self admitted he is part of the problem in DC by admittedly buying politicians. All here can support him sing his sweet praises. Not I. The man is a crass, bloviating, narcicist. That is what we have right now.


24 posted on 08/08/2015 8:36:07 AM PDT by exnavy (Common sense seems to be uncommon these days.)
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To: exnavy
McConnell isn’t running for president, I will not defend him. Trumps statements on Healthcare give him away. If you put lipstick on a pig...

How is that any different than Boehner and McConnell running on repealing Obamacare then to turn around and sit on their hands and say they can't?

Point is, they were elected on a promise and lied.

Do I trust Trump? No. Do I trust any of the other candidates? No.

25 posted on 08/08/2015 8:46:19 AM PDT by dragonblustar (Philippians 2:10)
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To: exnavy
he is part of the problem in DC by admittedly buying politicians.

He bought but the other candidates put themselves on the market to be bought. You pick. The buyer or seller?

26 posted on 08/08/2015 8:48:06 AM PDT by dragonblustar (Philippians 2:10)
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To: Hojczyk
One only needs to remember that the Reagan's were loathed by the Bush's.

Bush's pretended the Reagan's were the uncouth Hollywood actors, while they were the "true" established American aristocracy!

Geo. W. being descended from King George III, Reagan was descended from the unworthy Irish!

27 posted on 08/08/2015 8:52:08 AM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: MN_Mike
We need a consistent conservative, not a campaign conservative.

True but in this day and age, how are we going to get that. It seems blackmail and bribery are the norm. With the media willing to run hit pieces and political operatives willing to dig up the slightest dirt or simply make it up and use that against a hold out politician, how do you get a candidate that you can trust?

28 posted on 08/08/2015 8:53:28 AM PDT by dragonblustar (Philippians 2:10)
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To: ConservativeDude

In ‘76 I drove 30 miles up the coast to a
ranch outside of Paso Robles. He was going
to give a speech followed by a tri-tip BBQ.
Seemed like we waited all day but
eventually he, Nancy, and the host couple came
riding up on horses. Everybody was completely
stoked. Four years later my parents were invited to
his innaugaration. If only I had known the special
time that it was then.


29 posted on 08/08/2015 9:10:29 AM PDT by Sivad (NorCal red turf ;-))
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To: Sivad

what a fantastic memory!!!!!!!


30 posted on 08/08/2015 9:17:44 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: zerosix

The Bushes have had far more nice things to say about the Clintons that they ever did about Reagan.


31 posted on 08/08/2015 9:19:48 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: Hojczyk

I’m glad conservatives are starting to wake up now, but where were all these anti-Bush people during the Dubya era?

That man was one of the worst presidents in history and did massive damage to the USA. He also turned off the younger generation to the GOP through his idiotic invasion of Iraq and embrace of the police/surveillance state. Bush lost Congress and caused the Obama presidency, again, mainly due to the war.

At the time, there was almost no criticism of Dubya from conservatives. The few who did criticize were attacked relentlessly and largely hounded out of the movement.

Years later, the same people who were hypnotized by the upper crust Connecticut Yankee’s phony persona as a good ol’ boy from Texas act like they have always been anti-Bush. If only.


32 posted on 08/08/2015 10:21:46 AM PDT by Empire View
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To: ConservativeDude

The ‘76 GOP convention presentation by Reagan
got me to thinking. RR appealed to Democrats and
of course we know about the Reagan Democrats of
‘80 and ‘84. Why doesn’t someone like Cruz
appeal to disenfranchised Democrats? Are we
THAT polarized today?

Clearly the Democrat (I refuse to say Democratic) Party
has moved left and I can’t believe they are taking all
Democrats with them. There may be a gold mine out there
and an appeal might get someto start thinking.
In fact, I would like to see Cruz and other GOP candidates spend more time talking to and about people on a
personal level.

Just a thought.


33 posted on 08/08/2015 11:00:27 AM PDT by Sivad (NorCal red turf ;-))
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To: ConservativeDude

The ‘76 GOP convention presentation by Reagan
got me to thinking. RR appealed to Democrats and
of course we know about the Reagan Democrats of
‘80 and ‘84. Why doesn’t someone like Cruz
appeal to disenfranchised Democrats? Are we
THAT polarized today?

Clearly the Democrat (I refuse to say Democratic) Party
has moved left and I can’t believe they are taking all
Democrats with them. There may be a gold mine out there
and an appeal might get some to start thinking.
In fact, I would like to see Cruz and other GOP candidates spend more time talking to and about people on a
personal level.

Just a thought.


34 posted on 08/08/2015 11:02:12 AM PDT by Sivad (NorCal red turf ;-))
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To: Sivad
What a story to tell your Grandkids.

Lucky you.

35 posted on 08/08/2015 11:14:14 AM PDT by Churchillspirit (9/11/2001 and 9/11/2012: NEVER FORGET.)
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To: Sivad

spot on...and I believe...

That is coming.

I think Cruz is very much on top of this.

I still think there are many hard working, gun-toting, traditional democrats who love America and will come out for Cruz against Hillary.

Really, that is our only chance.

And Cruz knows his stuff, so I think that is coming!!!!


36 posted on 08/08/2015 11:51:52 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: Sivad

thank you for watching that video, btw.

it’s classic...we need to spread the word!

Watch the great man at work, and learn!


37 posted on 08/08/2015 11:52:31 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: Churchillspirit

Here’s another.....

My dad worked for the State Dept of Ed as a
special supervisor for the FFA (formerly
Future Farmers of America). He and the state
association president met with Gov Reagan in
his office in Sacramento. This was 1972 I
believe. They had their picture taken along
with RR, an Assemblyman, and a PR guy from
Southern Pacific(?). As they sat at the conference
table waiting for the photographer Reagan
glanced at a painting of a cowpoke hanging
on the wall. He said to his guests, “Sometimes
I like to think of myself as that cowboy,
riding off into the sunset”.

The world is lucky he didn’t decide to be
that cowboy.


38 posted on 08/08/2015 12:14:04 PM PDT by Sivad (NorCal red turf ;-))
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To: Sivad
Lovely experience for your Dad...and how poignant.

President Reagan did ride off into the sunset. The sunset of Alzheimer's.

39 posted on 08/08/2015 1:30:03 PM PDT by Churchillspirit (9/11/2001 and 9/11/2012: NEVER FORGET.)
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