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To: Godebert
The Constitution isn't a dictionary. There was only ONE definition of natural born Citizen at the time the founders drafted the Constitution. That definition is found in the Law of Nations.

I will point out something else to you. Prior to July 4, 1776, everyone was a British SUBJECT. Usage of the word "Citizen" to replace it didn't come about until around this time.

If you look up usage of the Word "Citizen" prior to 1776, you find it used to describe a member of a City. Search Shakespeare, or other writings of the time, and it is seldom if ever used to describe a member of a Nation.

Now where did this change in meaning come from? Who was using the word to describe the members of a nation around this time?

I'll give you a hint.

Le droit des gens, et les devoirs des citoyens, ou principes de la loi naturelle, appliqués à la conduite des affaires des nations et des souverains

What i'm getting at is that the usage of the word "Citizen" has Vattel's fingerprints all over it. That Vattel used it is the reason we also happen to use it... Now.

184 posted on 08/08/2015 4:16:51 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
"What i'm getting at is that the usage of the word "Citizen" has Vattel's fingerprints all over it. That Vattel used it is the reason we also happen to use it... Now."

Good points all. I will also point out that 'Citizen' is congruent with a Republic. The Latin phrase civis romanus sum (I am a Roman citizen) is a phrase used in Cicero's In Verrem as a plea for the legal rights of a Roman citizen during the Roman republic.

I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands.......

189 posted on 08/08/2015 5:52:00 PM PDT by Godebert
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