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The Donald Could Prove Hillary’s Trump Card
National Review ^ | August 4, 2016 | Thomas Sowell

Posted on 08/04/2015 10:20:20 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Trump’s popularity is highest among voters who see themselves as conservative. Since conservatives are generally smarter than the general population and more politically aware, I would say this bodes well for Trump’s chances.


81 posted on 08/04/2015 11:43:47 AM PDT by AmusedBystander (The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next)
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To: Sons of Union Vets; All

Yes. I certainly do remember.

Trump jumped onto Perot’s Reform Party for awhile too.

Some history for everyone about this:

“Reform Party”

“...............2000 presidential election

The Reform Party’s presidential candidate for the 2000 election was due federal matching funds of $12.5 million, based on Perot’s 8% showing in 1996. Early on, there was a failed effort to draft Ron Paul.

Donald Trump entered the race briefly, giving television interviews outlining his platform. Trump was progressive on social issues, and supported allowing openly gay soldiers in the military, saying: “it would not disturb me.” Trump considered himself a conservative, but criticized Pat Buchanan, saying: “I’m on the conservative side, but Buchanan is Attila the Hun.” He withdrew from the race citing the party’s infighting, as did Jesse Ventura and the Minnesota Reform Party.

Pat Buchanan decided to leave the Republican Party because: “The Republican Party at the national level has ceased to be my party. This divorce began around the end of the Cold War when President (George) Bush declared it to be a New World-order party and began intervening all over the world. While he and I were allies and friends during the Cold War, I just felt that once the Cold War was over the United States should return to a more traditional non-intervention foreign policy.”

It was suggested that John McCain seek the party’s endorsement.

After a bitter fight, Pat Buchanan secured the Reform Party nomination over John Hagelin of the Natural Law Party. Hagelin and an anti-Buchanan faction walked out and held a separate convention across the street, where they nominated Hagelin as the party’s candidate. The dispute went to the courts and the FEC decided that Buchanan was the legitimate nominee and awarded him $12.6 million in campaign funds.[11] Buchanan’s running mate was Ezola B. Foster. Buchanan got 449,225 votes, 0.4% of those voting,[clarification needed] and the party lost its matching funds for 2004.

In 2002, Buchanan returned to the Republican Party. Many of his campaign supporters also left the Reform Party to form the America First Party.
2004 presidential election

By the October 2003 National Convention, the Reform Party had only begun rebuilding, but several former state organizations had elected to rejoin now that the interference from the Freedom Parties was gone.They increased their ranks from 24 to 30 states, and managed to retrieve ballot access for seven of them. (Buchanan’s poor showing in 2000 had lost ballot access for almost the entire party.)

Because of organizational and financial problems in the party, it opted to support the independent campaign of Ralph Nader as the best option for an independent of any stripe that year. While the endorsement generated publicity for Nader and the Reform Party, the party was only able to provide Nader with seven ballot lines down from the 49 of 51 guaranteed ballot lines the party had going into the 2000 election....”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reform_Party_of_the_United_States_of_America


82 posted on 08/04/2015 11:44:05 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Give us your reasons to support Trump.

Whether Trump makes the final cut or not is not up to me. I am not a good prognosticator.

But: Trump is a business man and successful. Or, he wouldn't be a billionaire.

He is a manager of capital and people. He has built several very large projects which many have come in under budget and within the scheduled time allotted.

He certainly has experience with the media.

He has dealt with foreign governments and businessmen.

He has had to deal with the labyrinth of U.S. and State beauocracies (sp) and puffed up politicians.

As I said, i am no prognosticator, but none of what I have listed disqualifies him from being the top manager (President) of this nation.

83 posted on 08/04/2015 11:46:53 AM PDT by Parmy
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To: AmusedBystander
Trump’s popularity is highest among voters who see themselves as conservative...

One poll:

"....Trump is running first with independent-leaning Republican primary voters, winning 19 percent of their support. And he captures about a quarter of GOP voters who say that they could not see themselves supporting Jeb Bush for president in 2016.

Those who say they consider themselves conservative are equally split between Trump and Walker, with about 18 percent backing each man.

And Tea Party supporters most favor Ted Cruz (22 percent), with Trump (20 percent) and Walker (20 percent) close behind."... Source

84 posted on 08/04/2015 11:46:56 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: freedomfiter2

It’s now a big, deceptive game.


85 posted on 08/04/2015 11:49:19 AM PDT by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Tea Party supporters most favor Ted Cruz (22 percent), with Trump (20 percent) and Walker (20 percent) close behind."

Makes sense!

86 posted on 08/04/2015 11:52:27 AM PDT by dware (Yeah, so? What are we going to do about it?)
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To: dware

“Cruz/Trump ticket?”

Nice but Trump’s ego would never go for that!


87 posted on 08/04/2015 11:59:00 AM PDT by navet97
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
When there is a small army of Republican candidates, each with a tiny set of supporters, anyone with enough name recognition to get the support of a fifth or a fourth of the Republicans polled stands out...

Does not the "Bush" name have as much name recognition as the "Trump" name? Sowell is a brilliant man but I think he is off track here.

88 posted on 08/04/2015 12:05:06 PM PDT by Stingray51
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To: Sons of Union Vets
This would not be the first time the Clintons used a straw man to win an election.

If the Clintons were REALLY using Trump as the straw man, I think they miscalculated, big time. I can see the Perot angle - he appealed to just enough of those on the right to put billyjeff in office, but he did not have a WIDE appeal. Trump, OTOH, has very wide appeal from a large spectrum of voters, from right to left. While I don't think that appeal is big enough to give him an edge as a 3rd party candidate, I think that his appeal would be wide enough that it could hurt Hitlery, too, if Trump were to run 3rd party. His popularity cuts a swath from right to left, from Conservative to Liberal, and I think that if he were to run as a 3rd party, it could tip the scales to the favor of either the dummycrat OR the RINO. This is probably one of the biggest issues I have with Trump. Otherwise, he's spot on, and I love that he is destroying the establishment.

89 posted on 08/04/2015 12:05:44 PM PDT by dware (Yeah, so? What are we going to do about it?)
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To: Raycpa; ScottinVA

So, George Pataki could be the nominee? Lay out the scenario!

Lay out the scenario where my House district (80% for Obama) elects a Republican next year.

Sorry but “impossible” is a relevant word. All 3 of us will win the lottery jackpot before either of the above happens.


90 posted on 08/04/2015 12:06:18 PM PDT by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: navet97
Nice but Trump’s ego would never go for that!

Absolutely correct, and more's the pity. Cruz/Trump would be quite the unstoppable force.

91 posted on 08/04/2015 12:06:50 PM PDT by dware (Yeah, so? What are we going to do about it?)
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To: dware
You are probably right because I do like what Trump is saying, I love that he is rattling the cages of the establishment hacks, and am not going to miss the Thursday night debate.

It is just that I have been disappointed so many times you must pardon me if I have become a tad cynical. :-)

92 posted on 08/04/2015 12:15:54 PM PDT by Sons of Union Vets (Mine Eyes Have Seen the Glory!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
but that his irresponsible talk will become the image of the Republican party, and that his bombast will drown out more sober voices that need to be heard, thereby making it harder to select the best candidate.

Obviously Sowell isn't as wise as I was led to believe...I wonder how many more of his opinions turn out to be just blather...

93 posted on 08/04/2015 12:16:41 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
He's an economist...Period.

No matter what happens with Trump it will be a long time for Thomas Sowell to regain the respect he lost by writing that article.

94 posted on 08/04/2015 12:22:03 PM PDT by lewislynn ( Hillary = The pig with lipstick)
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To: ilovesarah2012

From the WSJ/NBC poll (July 26-30):

Re Trump:

Yes, Could See Self Supporting 47%

No, Could Not See Self Supporting 49%

Don’t know name 0%

Not sure 4%


Cruz:

52, 38, 7 3 (respectively)


Walker:

54, 24, 18, 4


Bush:

57, 40, 1, 2


Huckabee:

52, 43, 3, 2


95 posted on 08/04/2015 12:25:07 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"even if twice that many Republicans say they would never vote for him."

And would follow through on what we say. Never is the key word.


96 posted on 08/04/2015 12:50:25 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: familyop

2 unelectable New York Billionaires.

Hillary

and

Trump


97 posted on 08/04/2015 12:51:25 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Honestly, another NR article attempting to move Jeb or whoever into position. Another “anyone but Donald” article, even by Sowell, is getting more than annoying at this point. “We elites have our panties in a wad because, well… Mr. Trump is, is, is, just not good for polite company.” Deal with it!
Tell us Mr. Sowell, who is responsible for that anyway? Simple, the RNC - giving us pastel lukewarm candidates year after year. But I see no flames being thrown in the RNC’s direction. I don”t know who might be your idea of “voices of reason” but people are looking for someone with fire in their belly and that speaks plainly what everyday Americas see and feel. I only see two candidates that have that. The others will likely never get elected - and if they did we’d get more of the gradual slide into the abyss than the Obama fast track we’re on now. People are finally waking up to being duped and you want to chastise them against an emotional response? Shame, shame on you and all your intellect. How, pray tell, could Trump (and he’s not my first pick) be any worse than what we have now in the White House!?

Way, way better article over at: http://canadafreepress.com/article/74265
in case you missed it.


98 posted on 08/04/2015 1:04:10 PM PDT by Lake Living
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To: Lake Living

Sowell’s OpEd is a syndicated article.


99 posted on 08/04/2015 1:07:37 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The best thing Walker could do at this point is to call a press conference and publically denounce Dayspring. Walker should delineate exactly what the execrable, nauseating, vicious and viscerally disgusting GOPe did in Mississippi, via Dayspring, to ruin a good conservative and reelect a doddering RINO. Walker should stress that while he can’t fire Dayspring, he CAN keep close tabs on his activity, and if he, Walker, spots any hint of the bottom-feeding, scum-sucking calumny that Dayspring orchestrated in the Cochran campaign, he, Walker, will immediately and very publically condemn it.


100 posted on 08/04/2015 1:25:56 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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