[Political Junkie Too]

You're not going to win anything with Boehner and McConnell. The only way to win is to oust them. The only way to oust them is to either replace their lieutenants in upcoming elections, or turn popular sentiment on this issue so strong that they must act.

Walking away from a cloture vote won't do that. This chain began with the claim that McConnell voted NO in order to be able to reconsider this vote later. I suggested that he might never reconsider the motion. You suggested that it was pointless to reconsider because Obama will veto it anyway. How is any of this winning the issue?

At least a forced vote that Obama vetos can be used to rally the public when new videos come out and more courts try to intervene. Take it to the court of public opinion. Keep it in front of the people by making the MSM report it because Congress is voting on it repeatedly.

-PJ

[LS]

If indeed that was the strategy I would agree. But I doubt it is. I think as always (going back to the 1850s) the real strategy is to always bring the issue up quietly for votes that have no chance to succeed so they can run on "pro-life." PJ, don't you find it odd that after two elections and control of the senate and substantial public opinion they continue to dodge an up or down vote on Obamacare?

Have the videos substantially moved public opinion on abortion? I don't see it. Basically you managed to have one endangered Dem shift is vote and one endangered R shift his.

Honestly, if this were a meaningful vote don't you think we would have been closer to 50 or less?