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White House set to adopt sweeping curbs on carbon pollution
Washington Post ^ | August 2, 2015 | By Joby Warrick

Posted on 08/02/2015 12:13:49 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee

The Obama administration will formally adopt an ambitious regulation for cutting greenhouse-gas pollution on Monday, requiring every state to reduce emissions from coal-burning power plants and putting the country on a course that could change the way millions of Americans get their electricity.

A retooled version of the administration’s Clean Power Plan, first proposed a year ago, will seek to accelerate the shift to renewable energy while setting tougher goals for slashing carbon emissions blamed for global warming, according to administration officials briefed on the details.

The new plan sets a goal of cutting carbon pollution from power plants by 32 percent by the year 2030, compared with 2005 levels — a 9 percent jump from the previous target of 30 percent — while rewarding states and utility companies that move quickly to expand their investment in solar and wind power.

Many states will face tougher requirements for lowering greenhouse-gas emissions under the revised plan. But state governments also will be given more time to meet their targets and considerably more flexibility in how they achieve their pollution-cutting goals, according to two senior officials knowledgeable about the rule. For the first time, the officials said, the plan also includes a “reliability safety valve” that can buy states additional time if needed to avoid disruptions in the power supply.

The rule — the first to regulate carbon emissions as a pollutant — is certain to face legal challenges as well as fierce opposition from the Republican-controlled Congress. Opponents blasted last year’s proposed regulation as a possibly illegal federal overreach that would impose costly burdens on utility companies and their customers. . .

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1 posted on 08/02/2015 12:13:49 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee
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To: Brad from Tennessee

De-industrialize the U.S. Weaken us for the Liberal fantasy of carbon causing climate to somehow change.


2 posted on 08/02/2015 12:23:07 AM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
The only question I have concerning these "adoptions of ambitious regulations".

Can they be undone by the next president? How difficult would it be? How much will have been done toward compliance and therefore need to be thrown out as a result of said reversal? How deeply will the policies be entrenched 18 months hence?

3 posted on 08/02/2015 12:38:06 AM PDT by Lexinom
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4 posted on 08/02/2015 12:41:26 AM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: wac3rd

Liberals are delusional. They apparently think they are God and can control the climate. The Bible does say that if people don’t believe truth, then God will send them a strong delusion in that they will believe a lie.


5 posted on 08/02/2015 12:46:25 AM PDT by Catsrus (thet)
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To: Lexinom
[The only question I have concerning these “adoptions of ambitious regulations”. Can they be undone by the next president?]

I think what will happen during Obama’s remaining time in office is that at least half the states will tie up Obama and the EPA in court.

The regulations are written to make the path of least resistance for states and the electrical utilities within their jurisdictions to participate in “interstate cap-and-trade systems.” From story: “Officials familiar with the final rules said that in many cases, the easiest and cheapest way for states to comply would be by adopting cap-and-trade systems.”

I think the Administration's real intent here is to boost carbon credit trading in the U.S. Goldman Sachs and the rest of the financial service industry have been lobbying for a national cap and trade system in the U.S. Obama promised them they'd have it by 2010 but the Democrats in Congress killed it. It would have meant trillions of dollars for Obama’s cronies on Wall Street. So now Obama will do it by decree and say it's all about saving the earth.

6 posted on 08/02/2015 1:18:19 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

“Electric rates will necessarily skyrocket.”

For once, King Obongo told the truth.


7 posted on 08/02/2015 1:20:27 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Falcon 105)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Notice the editorializing where they consistently refer to it with the scary term “carbon pollution” because they know no one likes pollution. The thing is, CO2 is not a pollutant any more than water or oxygen is. It’s an integral part of the cycle of life.


8 posted on 08/02/2015 1:23:07 AM PDT by arista
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To: Brad from Tennessee
The rule — the first to regulate carbon emissions as a pollutant — is certain to face legal challenges as well as fierce opposition from the Republican-controlled Congress.

Yah, right.
10 posted on 08/02/2015 1:34:35 AM PDT by Rastus
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To: Brad from Tennessee

I believe they really want to outlaw the following combination.

65% Oxygen, 18% Carbon, 10% Hydrogen, 3% Nitrogen, 1.5% Calcium, 1.2% Phosphorus, and >1% trace minerals Potassium, Sulfur, Chlorine, Sodium, Magnesium, Iron, Cobalt, Copper, Zinc, Iodine, Selenium, Fluorine.

This would pretty much solve all their problems.


11 posted on 08/02/2015 1:37:07 AM PDT by antidisestablishment (I was mad when they changed Republican states to Red, but I now I see they were right.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
[The only question I have concerning these “adoptions of ambitious regulations”. Can they be undone by the next president?]

I hope so, but another question is, would the next president have the stones to do it? Not if he/she is a RINO.

12 posted on 08/02/2015 1:50:53 AM PDT by Mark17 (How could anyone suspend himself upon a cross and die for me, die willingly, to set us free.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

I think we should start with cutting down the number of pencil pushers. I mean, like, I should know. I have a doctorate degree in climatology. I, like, know what I’m talking about. It is the carbon in graphite that is really really going up into the atmosphere and, like, causing the heat from my mom’s ironing board to, like, bounce back to earth. We gots to get those pencil pushers to stop pushing on the pencils by, like, getting rid of all the pencil pusher jobs.

I gots to take a pause here, and think about how I, like, want to say the next thing. A few tokes of weed are needed . . .

You know, like, after getting rid of all that graphite in the air, there is something, like we should really really, like, consider eliminating. We should eliminate the growing of beans. Beans cause, you know, well, let’s call it methane gas. The amount of methane caused from, like, the eating of beans is weighting the earth down with carbon. Pretty soon, with all that carbon, the earth, like, will slow down and sunlight will have that much more time to heat up the land. And, like, pretty soon the sea will start boiling and man will, like, have to live down in caves, where it is cooler. I know I wouldn’t, like, want to live in a cave. It is too dark down there! So, if you want to, you know, keep from living in caves, we need to eliminate the bean.

Gotta go now. Weed’s waiting.

/sarc


13 posted on 08/02/2015 2:01:01 AM PDT by jonrick46 (The Left has a mental disorder: A totalitarian mindset..)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
White House set to adopt sweeping curbs will impose further punitive burdens on carbon pollution on the American way of life.
14 posted on 08/02/2015 2:22:08 AM PDT by uglybiker (nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-BATMAN!)
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To: Rastus

Fierce opposition from the Republican-Controlled Congress????

I needed a hearty belly laugh.


15 posted on 08/02/2015 2:39:57 AM PDT by Catsrus (thet)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

They know the earth will start cooling soon on its own, so they hope to take credit for it.


16 posted on 08/02/2015 3:08:17 AM PDT by zencycler
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To: Brad from Tennessee; Lexinom
"tie up Obama and EPA in court"

Correct. After the regs are officially released, many lawsuits will be filed. After which the plaintiffs will ask the court for an injunction to prevent implementation by EPA until the courts can hear and rule on all the lawsuits.

If they can get that, they can string out and slow walk the individual suits. Even if they lose all the lawsuits, they can delay it a decade.

They tried the same thing in 2010 over Obama's first set of CO2 regs, but the courts said no. You need to understand that the first set of regs in 2010 dealt with new permits/new plants. This set regs deals with existing permits.

So, if they can't get the injunction, then implementation begins, but the lawsuits will be on the court docket and will take a few years to reach and be ruled on by SCOTUS. For example: the lawsuit over the 2010 CO2 regs on existing permits was eventually ruled on by SCOTUS in June 2014, and SCOTUS ruled for Obama/EPA.

So, implementation begins but will take years and the SCOTUS ruling will take years so can a new GOP prez taking office in 2017 undo it?

Yes, but. If a new GOP prez undos it, the enviros will sue and they will seek an injunction blocking the new GOP prez until the case can reach and be ruled on by SCOTUS, which will take years. And since implementation had already begun, the enviros would likely succeed in getting an injunction. Keep in mind that the enviros can also file many lawsuits and ask the courts for the injunction until all the individual cases can be heard and ruled on and then slow walk the individual suits and string it out for a decade.

There is also an underlying reason that these regs can't or won't be stopped by the courts.

There are two major sources of CO2, power plants which these regs deal with and tailpipes.

Whereas EPA is seeking to regulate power plants to lower their CO2 regs, tailpipe CO2 is being regulated/reduced by raising CAFE standards. And the GOP has signed off on that(2009).

CO2 is CO2, it doesn't make any difference what the source is. Since the GOP has signed off on lowering tailpipe CO2 emissions, they have acknowledged that CO2 emissions need to be reduced.

So if the GOP tries to block CO2 emissions from power plants and not try to block CO2 emissions from tailpipes, they are probably going to lose.

17 posted on 08/02/2015 3:28:41 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Lexinom

Thye can undo the regulations, but the damage will be irreversible since most of the targeted coal plants and mines will be closed forever.


18 posted on 08/02/2015 3:34:06 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Way to go, Obama. Raising everybody’s electric bills will do wonders for our 2% “recovery”. Great thinking there.


19 posted on 08/02/2015 3:46:08 AM PDT by mtrott
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To: Brad from Tennessee

“White House set to adopt sweeping curbs on carbon pollution”

Misleading headline.

“White House set to dictate sweeping curbs on carbon pollution”

There fixed it.


20 posted on 08/02/2015 4:18:24 AM PDT by Slambat
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