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To: exDemMom

So sorry to enlighten you, but this vaccine was tested on young women 25 and older. The long term effects of the vaccine on those so young are not known. Maybe kids should be discouraged from having sex at 12?? Some young women have died after this vaccine. Government should not be requiring this for girls so young. Or even older. Sex is not always the option that kids turn to........hopefully they will learn the sex has consequences and not just getting pregnant. And yes, around 75% of the cervical cancers are from a couple of the HPV strains, but if you know anything about viruses......they always mutate. This is not the silver bullet that the Obama Administration claims. And the other 25% of cervical cancers can still be deadly. PS-the Government, with the ‘cover’ of Gardasil, now has severely cut the option of having pap smears. From 18-49, now only once every 3 years. Age 49-65, only once every 5 years. And after 65, only if you have symptoms. Yes, the Health Insurance companies will be fined if they pay for pap smears more often. And the reason so many women over 65 survived uterine/cervical cancers is because the cells shed BEFORE there are symptoms. Once a woman over 65 has symptoms, she will likely not survive her cancer. Your Government doesn’t care about your healthcare......they only want all those healthcare dollars. Trust me......it was my line of work for decades. And PPS-one type of the specimens we would get would be anal smears, usually from gay men. And it is also true that the virus can cause warts in the throat. HPV is a nasty virus, maybe kids should be schooled to be more chaste.......I don’t think it is a lost cause.


12 posted on 07/31/2015 7:33:22 PM PDT by originalbuckeye ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: originalbuckeye

Yes, bingo. This is the cover for eliminating ob/gyn coverage.

It’s what happens when you have the government meddling in every part of your life.


14 posted on 07/31/2015 7:35:11 PM PDT by sunrise_sunset
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To: originalbuckeye
So sorry to enlighten you, but this vaccine was tested on young women 25 and older.

In order to sell a drug for use in patients of a particular age group, the drug must be tested in that age group. The FDA will not approve any drug for use in an age group in which it was not tested.

Maybe kids should be discouraged from having sex at 12??

I don't think many people are encouraging kids to have sex at age 12 (unless they are Planned Parenthood operatives). The HPV vaccine must be administered to virgins in order to have the best chance of preventing future HPV infection; the probability that a 12 year old is still a virgin is very high as opposed to (for example) an 18 or 20 year old.

Some young women have died after this vaccine.

There is no verifiable or credible evidence that anyone has died from this vaccine. The "evidence" comes from anti-vax groups who do not want anyone to be protected from any disease. You might want to look into the history of anti-vax groups--their objections to vaccines always were based on the belief that God wants us to die from infectious diseases, and to prevent the diseases that would have otherwise occurred is to thwart the will of God. There is no reason to think that the motivation of current anti-vaxxers is any different (even if they appeal to "nature" rather than to God).

And yes, around 75% of the cervical cancers are from a couple of the HPV strains, but if you know anything about viruses......they always mutate.

It is my profession to know about viruses. Papillomaviruses are DNA viruses, which do not mutate as fast or as easily as RNA viruses such as influenza. The fact that 75% of cervical cancers are caused by only a couple of the >100 existing strains of HPV means that a lot of cancer can be prevented with a simple vaccination.

And the other 25% of cervical cancers can still be deadly.

The other oncogenic strains of HPV do not progress to cancer as rapidly as strains 16 and 18 in causing cancer. Some of them might not ever progress to a full cancer in every person who is infected. The vaccines protect against strains 16 and 18, which are known to progress rapidly to cancer.

From 18-49, now only once every 3 years. Age 49-65, only once every 5 years. And after 65, only if you have symptoms.

No offense, but that doesn't even make sense. The whole premise of PAP tests is to catch the cancer or pre-cancer before symptoms occur--which would negate the very purpose of waiting until there are symptoms before doing a PAP test in women over 65.

And I have to say that I am very happy that I will not have to have another PAP test for 5 years. Even though I was treated for an early cervical cancer when I was in my 20s, I was recently tested negative for HPV and will not have to have another PAP for 5 years. It is difficult to express just how much I hate and resent PAP tests, and how much joy I feel at not having to undergo one of those demeaning and violating tests again for 5 years. All of the indications are that the new guidelines are science-based, not based on a desire to limit healthcare expenditures. I am very aware that limiting costs by limiting care is a fundamental premise of Obamacare, but my opinion as a medical professional is that the new guidelines are science-based.

maybe kids should be schooled to be more chaste

Honestly... when, throughout human history, has enforcing chastity ever been successful? In Muslim countries, the penalty (at least for girls) for extra-marital relations is death... if the threat of execution is not sufficient to ensure virginity, then what *is* sufficient?

Keep in mind, the kids getting vaccinated against HPV have no clue that the major mode of transmission of oncogenic HPV is sexual. All they know is what their parents and the doctors tell them...that the vaccine will protect them from some cancer.

45 posted on 07/31/2015 10:41:36 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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