Does Global Warming Actually Increase Antarctic Sea Ice?

Discovery News ^ | July 31, 2015 | BY PATRICK J. KIGER

[CyberAnt]

Earth has not warmed in over 20 years. Legitimate scientists are predicting MUCH COLDER WEATHER this winter; and we’re already having snow in Colorado.

The data they’re using to say the globe is warming is faulty .. because it’s BASED ON FAULTY DATA. A computer model is just that .. a model. It has been configured on false data.

Christopher Horner wrote several books on this subject and explained how it was a hoax in, “Red Hot Lies”.

If people really want to know the truth — it’s available; Christopher Horner is just one such book of truth.

[Bob434]

Yep I know- however, when I am speaking about ‘global warming’ in general, I mean over the last 100 or more years- The earth has warmed- some- but my points are not whether the earth has warmed, my points are to dispute than man is responsible-

[[The data they’re using to say the globe is warming is faulty]]

They know this- but they are so steeped in, so invested in, so married to the lie that man is causing global warming, that they can not ever admit the truth because they are in so deep there is no escape to save face any longer- They were embarrassed when they doom and gloom predicted we were heading for an ice age, then they were embarrassed when they changed directions and changed direction nd began calling it climate change, then they were embarrassed when their guru hanson and ilk got caught LYING, covering up, and intimidating those who opposed- so the dug I n their heels and began adamantly declaring ‘it’s settled science’ and went on a massive pr campaign to belittle and denigrate and ostracize anyone who called them to the carpet for the outright lies-

The actual facts are not supporting their claims, so they turn to intimidation and mass saturation techniques where they drum it into everyone’s minds, young and old alike, that man is to blame- they figure all they have to do is say it enough times and it will become the ‘new truth’

[[A computer model is just that .. a model. It has been configured on false data.]]

Just like Ken Miller’s ‘evolution’ computer model (I believe it was miller) who tried to make it appear that coding was random and evolution was possible, however, when actually examined, it was shown the code was not truly random, and that parameters had to be set in order for certain results to occur- in otherwords, intelligent design was involved to ensure a certain result happened-

It’s all deceit and slight of hand— just like the site which claimed cows produce 3 billion tons of methane- and by golly that sounds like a disaster because 3 billion sounds like a large number- however, it’s nothing when compared to 6 quadrillion- so they leave out the FACT that atmosphere is made up of 6 quadrillion tons of molecules, and all we’re left with seeing is 3 billion tons, which again, looks like a lot and looks dire-

Just like they leave out the fact that man’s contribution of CO2 to atmosphere is just 0.00137% of the atmosphere- because they know they would be laughed out of the room if they tried to explain how just 0.00137% of the atmosphere can be capturing enough CO2 and back radiating it in large enough quantities to cause the earth’s climates to change

[palmer]

I read that link. Ex: "The strengthened polar vortex that follows traps the wave energy of the tropospheric circulation, and the North Atlantic oscillation (NAO) dominates winter circulation, producing winter warming over large parts of the Northern Hemisphere. Evidently volcanoes first cause cooling and then longer-term warming."

What they are saying is volcanoes affect weather and weather controls climate. The sun also famously affects weather. I do not disagree with any go that and I have stressed all along that the prevailing weather controls the climate over the long run (weather is climate over the long run).

Some examples of that: Greenland used to be further south and had a lot less ice. Back then the climate was much warmer. The Isthmus of Panama was open, water and heat flowed from the Pacific into the Atlantic and the world as a whole was warmer. The closing of the isthmus was a fairly recent change. Antarctica is cut off from the rest of the world's weather and is exceptionally cold but that was not always the case.

All of those things are reasons we are in an ice age right now. We are not in full glaciation but an ice age nonetheless. Certain triggers such as increasing Antarctic sea ice can potentially bring us back into a full ice age.

None of those factors have anything to do with CO2. They are all geological. They are the opposite of the things you mention in that they all decrease temperature and thereby cause decreases in CO2. We were until recently in a CO2-starved mode. The C4 grasses developed as a result:

"The Earth has been in this `CO2-starved' mode, where C4 monocots make up a signi¢cant fraction of the Earth's total biomass, for some 7 Ma, a condition rarely (if ever) attained in the earlier history of the Earth's atmosphere"

C4 plants are Maize (corn), sorghum, pearl millet and sugarcane. Again this points out why CO2 is dropping. The factors you mention: decreased vegetation, fires, etc will increase CO2. But the natural factors mainly point to decreased CO2. Also the factors you mention like ocean sinks releasing CO2 can only release relatively small amounts. For example it takes 1 degree of warming to raise CO2 by 5-10 ppm at most. But we have 120ppm more CO2 and 2-3ppm rise per year. Obviously that cannot be from ocean warming because the ocean is not warming that much.

It also cannot be from decreases in vegetation because vegetation is not decreasing that much, see http://www.researchgate.net/.../0c9605375f15693d01000000.pdf

As for your "No it wouldn’t- CO2 was higher than it is today, and went from low 100’s to higher 100’s rapidly caused by many different causes" that is true, but that was mainly from full ice ages to interglacial and those changes took thousands of years.

[palmer]

Just like they leave out the fact that man’s contribution of CO2 to atmosphere is just 0.00137% of the atmosphere

They don't leave it out. Here is a paper about the natural rises in CO2 that we have had: http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/paleobotany/dldpdfs/1999wagnerbohnckedilcherco2.pdf. It shows some pretty dramatic rises. Some are about 1/2 of the rise observed today, so natural rises are possible. But those are explained to the extent that they can in that paper. Our current rise is best explained by manmade CO2.

[GOPJ]

Liberals believe anything that will increase grant money to disgraces ‘scientists’...

[Bob434]

[[None of those factors have anything to do with CO2. They are all geological. They are the opposite of the things you mention in that they all decrease temperature and thereby cause decreases in CO2.]]

No sir- they produce CO2 and cause massive vegetation die off causing more CO2 to be released

[[but that was mainly from full ice ages to interglacial and those changes took thousands of years.]]

Yeah not so much- I had given you the l ink in a previous discussion showing the rapid increases and decreases according to the recrods

[[It also cannot be from decreases in vegetation because vegetation is not decreasing that much, see ]]

Sure there has been massive die offs- whole continents practically lost their vegetation- Not to mention ice ages causing massive die off (remembe4r it gets cold before ice forms- tropical plants die off en mass- then ise sets in- CO2 is released

[Bob434]

[[Our current rise is best explained by manmade CO2.]]

Egads- ok, one more time:

[[Judging by the speech Murry Salby gave at the Sydney Institute, there’s a blockbuster paper coming soon.

An important new paper published today in Global and Planetary Change finds that changes in CO2 follow rather than lead global air surface temperature and that “CO2 released from use of fossil fuels have little influence on the observed changes in the amount of atmospheric CO2” The paper finds the “overall global temperature change sequence of events appears to be from 1) the ocean surface to 2) the land surface to 3) the lower troposphere,” in other words, the opposite of claims by global warming alarmists that CO2 in the atmosphere drives land and ocean temperatures. Instead, just as in the ice cores, CO2 levels are found to be a lagging effect of ocean warming, not significantly related to man-made emissions, and not the driver of warming.]]

http://hockeyschtick.blogspot.com/2012/08/new-blockbuster-paper-finds-man-made.html

[[Over the last two years he has been looking at C12 and C13 ratios and CO2 levels around the world, and has come to the conclusion that man-made emissions have only a small effect on global CO2 levels. It’s not just that man-made emissions don’t control the climate, they don’t even control global CO2 levels.]]

http://www.infowars.com/blockbuster-planetary-temperature-controls-co2-levels-%E2%80%94-not-humans/

Since youl ike graphs so much (selective graphs which downplay the massive temperature spieks in the past) Here’s a nice graph for you

[[Global climate changes have been far more intense (12 to 20 times as intense in some cases) than the global warming of the past century, and they took place in as little as 20–100 years. Global warming of the past century (0.8° C) is virtually insignificant when compared to the magnitude of at least 10 global climate changes in the past 15,000 years. None of these sudden global climate changes could possibly have been caused by human CO2 input to the atmosphere because they all took place long before anthropogenic CO2 emissions began. The cause of the ten earlier ‘natural’ climate changes was most likely the same as the cause of global warming from 1977 to 1998.]]

http://www.americantraditions.org/Articles/New%20Evidence%20that%20Man-Made%20Carbon%20Dioxide%20(CO2)%20Does%20Not%20Cause%20Global%20Warming.htm

[[
According to Dr. Murry Salby, the indication of the recent increase in CO2 is that it’s mostly natural. He is about to release a paper which shows just that. In this lecture he describes how.

The amazing conclusion from his talk is that not only do humans not affect the climate, humans don’t even have any important influence on the CO2 level. [38] ... [Emphasis added.]

What all of this recent information adds up to is that the “global warmers” have argued the exact opposite of the truth. Any effect of greenhouse gases would be a net cooling effect instead of a warming effect. This is for the simple reason that more heat is reflected away or absorbed and kept from coming to the earth, than the amount of heat that is kept in the vicinity of the earth by these elements, after some heat reaches the earth. This science agrees with common sense.

I hope that in the research of the Danes, and in the CLOUD project, they simulate the CO2 in our atmosphere, and once and for all come up with some good science on its exact effect – whether it is cooling or warming. I predict that if there is any effect, it would be a net cooling effect, which is the proven effect of all of the other “greenhouses gases.” But I also predict that the effect would be relatively negligible to climate change. This is born out by common sense and known science on the question.

The ‘man-made global warming’ propaganda has been the biggest and most expensive fraud that has ever been perpetrated on mankind, and the primary culprits were men who paraded as “scientists.” It was also assisted in by the Nobel Committee, who awarded the Nobel Peace Prize to Al Gore and the IPCC, jointly, in 2007, for their work on man-made global warming.[39]]]

[[The timing is all wrong for the theory of manmade global warming:
•Temperature increases started in 1700, and the underlying rate of increase has been roughly steady (though there have been warming and cooling fluctuations around the trend).
•Human emissions of carbon dioxide were negligible before 1850, and really only took off after 1945.

If human emissions of carbon dioxide caused global warming, then there would be massive and accelerating global warming after 1945 and almost no global warming before 1945. Obviously this is not the case.]]

http://joannenova.com.au/2009/11/a-simple-proof-that-global-warming-is-not-manmade/

Hmmmm, seems my calculations were a bit off

[[2) Man-made carbon dioxide emissions throughout human history constitute less than 0.00022 percent of the total naturally emitted from the mantle of the earth during geological history.]]

Seems man’s total contribution over the many decades has been just 0.00022%, not the 0.00137% I’ve been stating- seems I was way off- Soooo, can someone please explain how just 0.00022% of our atmosphere can capture enough heat and back radiate it in large enough quantities to cause global climate change?

[[4) After World War II, there was a huge surge in recorded CO2 emissions but global temperatures fell for four decades after 1940.]]

[[10) A large body of scientific research suggests that the sun is responsible for the greater share of climate change during the past hundred years.]]

[[11) Politicians and activiists claim rising sea levels are a direct cause of global warming but sea levels rates have been increasing steadily since the last ice age 10,000 ago]]

‘overwhelming scientitifc consensus’? Think again!

[[19) A petition by scientists trying to tell the world that the political and media portrayal of global warming is false was put forward in the Heidelberg Appeal in 1992. Today, more than 4,000 signatories, including 72 Nobel Prize winners, from 106 countries have signed it.]]

[[23) It is myth that receding glaciers are proof of global warming as glaciers have been receding and growing cyclically for many centuries]]

[[26) The IPCC threat of climate change to the world’s species does not make sense as wild species are at least one million years old, which means they have all been through hundreds of climate cycles]]

[[30) The slight increase in temperature which has been observed since 1900 is entirely consistent with well-established, long-term natural climate cycles]]

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/146138/100-reasons-why-climate-change-is-natural

On and on and on it goes!

I’ll be more than happy to keep citing stats, statements, reports, studies etc-

[CyberAnt]

It’s a COMPUTER MODEL - it’s all a hoax.

The data entered into the computer WAS A LIE.

[CyberAnt]

Thanks. At least I’m not the only one who thinks these people are crazy.

[palmer]

Since youl ike graphs so much (selective graphs which downplay the massive temperature spieks in the past) Here’s a nice graph for you

I have never downplayed or selected graphs at any time. Also I agree with temperature graph from your link which I posted above. Here's 10k years of CO2:

[[2) Man-made carbon dioxide emissions throughout human history constitute less than 0.00022 percent of the total naturally emitted from the mantle of the earth during geological history.]]

That's true, but not very relevant. Geological history is billions of years and man's emissions are 100 years or so. Most importantly all that CO2 released throughout geological history has been subducted back into the mantle. Basically mountains rose up, the mountains weathered and that weathering extracted the CO2 from the atmosphere and put it at the bottom of the ocean where it got sucked back into the molten mantle by plate tectonics.

So mankind's CO2 is not 0.00022% of what is in the present atmosphere. Nor is it your old number. It is roughly 1/3 of the CO2 in the atmosphere. There is very little scientific dispute over that amount. Also as the two charts above show, there is very little doubt that the current spike in CO2 (bottom chart) was not caused by warming (top chart). That doesn't rule out other sources other than manmade. Venting and vegetation loss are the other two possibilities. But vegetation loss is minimal as I showed in the paper I linked above. Venting is poorly measured especially under the oceans, but there is no scientific explanation of why venting started only in the last 100 years or so.

But the most important takeaway from the two charts above is that CO2 has a very weak relationship to global temperature. It lags as you state, probably by a few hundred years. Then there is the manmade spike (insert big yawn emoticon here)

[palmer]

Computer models are not hoaxes, just useless for predictions. They have been tuned and tweaked to reproduce past temperature, but those past temperature measurements are pretty much junk. The inputs to the model are even worse. They add things like aerosols without any realistic way of determining past levels. In short, GIGO.

[CyberAnt]

Well, it’s still a hoax, if you (the person entering the false data) tell everybody it’s true data.

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[Bob434]

[[There is very little scientific dispute over that amount.]]

Lol yeah- ok- that’s why EVERY major source states man’s responsibility is just 3.4% of the 0.04% total-

Also you are ignoring apparently the statement- man’s contribution of CO2 to the atmosphere is just 0.00022% OF THE ATMOSPHERE- in other words, 99.9978% of the total atmosphere has no CO2 in it due to man

IF you have data showing the total amount of CO2 produced by man amounts to more than 0.00022% of the atmosphere- then let’s see it-

Let’s do some math-

The total mass of Earth’s atmosphere is about 5.5 quadrillion tons,

Man has produced how many tons over the industrial age?

What % of the earth’s atmospheric tonnage does that amount to? I’m probably being too conservative)

[[[[2) Man-made carbon dioxide emissions throughout human history constitute less than 0.00022 percent of the total naturally emitted from the mantle of the earth during geological history.]]

That’s true, but not very relevant. Geological history is billions of years and man’s emissions are 100 years or so.]]

Of course it’s relevant- climates change all the time- CO2 spikes all the time- There is no scientific doubt about that- and to try to blame climate change on 0.00022% of the atmosphere is ludicrous regardless of how old you might think the earth is- the fact remains the total amount of CO2 produced by man for the whole of the industrial age is just 0.00022% in relation to the total tonnage of atmosphere- please explain to everyone how just 0.00022% of the atmosphere can cause global climate change? Please explain how just 0.00022% of our atmosphere can capture enough escaping heat, then back radiate a FRACTION of that heat back to earth to cause climate temps to rise? (and note, I’m being generous because not all of the 0.00022% over the industrial age is still I n the atmosphere

[Bob434]

Believe me, there is a TRUE consensus of scientists who also think the hoaxes a charlatans are evil (not crazy- they know exactly what they are doing and WHY they are doing it) And 80% of ipcc scientists state that man is NOT the driver of global warming- following is al ist of scientists whio do not think man is causing the cyclical wamrign events that the ‘man-caused global warming ‘liars are trying to blame on man

Skeptical Scientists:

A. Alan Moghissi, Ph.D. Physical Chemistry, Former Director, U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, Bioenvironmental Division, USA
Adriano Mazzarella, Ph.D. Professor of Earth Sciences, University of Naples, Italy
Aksel C. Wiin-Nielsen, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Geophysical Science, University of Copenhagen, Denmark
Albrecht Glatzle, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Agricultural Biology, University of Hohenheim, Germany
Alexander Gumen, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Environmental Geology and Geophysics, University of Gomel, Russia
Alfred H. Pekarek, Ph.D. Professor of Earth and Atmospheric Science, St. Cloud State University, USA
Allan M.R. MacRae, B.Sc., M.Eng., P.Eng, Canada
Allen Simmons, BSEE, Former Computer Modeler and Weather Satellite Engineer, NASA, USA
Alois Haas, Ph.D. D.Sc. Professor Emeritus of Chemistry, University of Zurich, Switzerland
Amy Kaleita, Ph.D. Professor of Agricultural and Biosystems Engineering, Iowa State University, USA
Andreas Prokoph, Ph.D. Professor of Earth Science, University of Ottawa, Canada
Andrei Kapitsa, Ph.D. Professor of Geography, Moscow State Lomonosov University, Russia
Anthony R. Lupo, Ph.D. Professor of Atmospheric Science, University of Missouri, USA
Antonino Zichichi, Ph.D. President of the World Federation of Scientists, Italy
Arun D Ahluwalia, Ph.D. Professor of Geology, Panjab University, India
Arthur B. Robinson, Ph.D. Professor of Chemistry, Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine, USA
Arthur G. Anderson, Ph.D. Physics, USA
Arthur V. Douglas, Ph.D. Professor of Atmospheric Science, Creighton University, USA
Arthur Rorsch, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Molecular Genetics, Leiden University, The Netherlands
Atholl Sutherland Brown, Ph.D. Geology, Former Chief Geologist of the British Columbia Geological Survey, Canada
Ben Herman, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Atmospheric Science, University of Arizona, USA
Benjamin D. Pearson, B.S. Physics, USA
Bill Collins, Ph.D. Professor of Earth Science, James Cook University, Australia
Bjarne Andresen, Ph.D. Theoretical Chemistry, Professor of Physics, University of Copenhagen, Denmark
Bob Durrenberger, Retired Climatologist, Former President of the American Association of State Climatologists, USA
Boris Winterhalter, Ph.D. Professor of Marine Geology, University of Helsinki, Finland
Brian G. Valentine, Ph.D. Chemical Scientist, U.S. Department of Energy, USA
Brian Pratt, Ph.D. Professor of Sedimentology and Paleontology, University of Saskatchewan, Canada
Bruce Borders, Ph.D. Professor of Forest Biometrics, Warnell School of Forestry and Natural Resources, University of Georgia, USA
Bruce N. Ames, Ph.D. Professor of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology, University of California, Berkeley, USA
Bruno Wiskel, B.Sc. Geology, Canada
Bryan Leyland, M.Sc. Electrical and Mechanical Engineering, New Zealand
Burt Rutan, B.S. Aeronautical Engineering, D.Sc. (honoris causa), USA
Carl Johan Friedrich (Frits) Böttcher, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Physical Chemistry, University of Leiden, The Netherlands
Charles Gelman, B.S. Chemistry, M.S. Health Science, USA
Charles Hammons, Ph.D. Applied Mathematics, Software Engineer, USA
Charles R. Anderson, Ph.D. Physics, USA
Chris de Freitas, Ph.D. Professor of Environmental Science, University of Auckland, New Zealand
Christiaan Frans van Sumere, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Biochemistry, University of Gent, Belgium
Christoph C. Borel, Ph.D. Electrical and Computer Engineering, USA
Christopher Essex, Ph.D. Professor of Applied Mathematics, University of Western Ontario, Canada
Christopher Landsea, Ph.D. Atmospheric Science, USA
Claude Allegre, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Earth Science, University Paris, France
Cliff Ollier, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Earth and Geographical Science, University of Western Australia, Australia
Clinton H. Sheehan, Ph.D. Professor of Physics, Ouachita Baptist University, USA
Colin Barton, Ph.D. Earth Science, Australia
Craig D. Idso, M.S. Agronomy, Ph.D. Geography, Chairman, Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change, USA
Craig Loehle, Ph.D. Mathematical Ecology, USA
Dan Carruthers, M.Sc. Wildlife Biology Consultant, Animal Ecology in Arctic and Subarctic Regions Specialist, Canada
Daniel B. Botkin, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Ecology and Marine Biology, University of California, USA
David Deming, Ph.D. Professor of Geology and Geophysics, University of Oklahoma, USA
David E. Wojick, Ph.D. Mathematical Logic, USA
David Evans, B.E. Electrical Engineering, B.Sc. Applied Mathematics and Physics, M.A. Applied Mathematics, M.S. Electrical Engineering, M.S. Statistics, Ph.D. Electrical Engineering, Carbon Accounting Modeller, Australia
David G. Aubrey, B.S. Geological Science, Ph.D. Oceanography, USA
David G. Gee, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Earth Sciences, Uppsala Universitet, Sweden
David Gray, Ph.D. Professor of Engineering, Messiah College, USA
David H. Douglass, Ph.D. Professor of Physics, University of Rochester, USA
David J. Ameling, B.A. Physics, USA
David J. Bellamy, B.Sc. Ph.D. C.Biol. FIBiol. Professor of Botany, Nottingham University, UK
David Kear, Ph.D. Geology, New Zealand
David L. Hill, Ph.D. Physics, USA
David Nowell, M.Sc. Meteorology, Royal Meteorological Society, Canada
David R. Legates, Ph.D. Professor of Climatology, University of Delaware, USA
David R. B. Stockwell, Ph.D. Ecosystem Dynamics, Research Scientist, National Center for Ecological Analysis and Synthesis, USA
Dennis P. Lettenmaier, Ph.D. Professor of Hydrology, University of Washington, USA
Dick Thoenes, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Chemical Engineering, Eindhoven University of Technology, The Netherlands
Don J. Easterbrook, Ph.D. Professor of Environmental Geology, Western Washington University, USA
Don Parkes, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Geography, University of Newcastle, Australia
Donald G. Baker, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Soil, Water & Climate, University of Minnesota, USA
Donn Dears, B.S. Engineering, USA
Doug L. Hoffman, Ph.D. Computer Science, Environmental Modeler, USA
Douglas V. Hoyt, Retired Solar Physicist and Climatologist, USA
Duncan Wingham, Ph.D. Professor of Climate Physics, University College London, UK
Eckhard Grimmel, Ph.D. Professor of Geography, University of Hamburg, Germany
Eduardo Tonni, Ph.D. Professor of Paleontology, University of La Plata, Argentina
Edward F. Blick, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, University of Oklahoma, USA
Edward Wegman, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Computational Statistics, George Mason University, USA
Edwin X. Berry, Ph.D. Atmospheric Physics, AMS, CCM, USA
Eigil Friis-Christensen, Ph.D. Geophysics, Director of the Danish National Space Center, Denmark
Eric S. Posmentier, Professor of Earth Science, Dartmouth, USA
Ernst-Georg Beck, M.Sc. Biology, Germany
Eugene N. Parker, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Astronomy and Astrophysics, University of Chicago, USA
Everett Burts, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Biological Science, Washington State University, USA
F. James Cripwell, B.A. Natural Science (Honours Physics), Cavendish Laboratory, University of Cambridge, UK
Ferenc Miskolczi, Atmospheric Physicist, Hungary
Fred Goldberg, Ph.D. Mechanical Engineering, Sweden
Frederick A. Michel, Ph.D. Professor of Earth Science, Carlton Universityy, Canada
Fred W. Decker, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Atmospheric Science, Oregon State University, USA
Freeman Dyson, Professor Emeritus of Physics, Princeton University, Lorentz Medal 1966, Max Planck Medal 1969, USA
Gabriel T. Csanady, Ph.D. Mechanical Engineering, Australia
Garth W. Paltridge, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Antarctic and Southern Ocean Studies, University of Tasmania, Australia
Gary D. Sharp, Ph.D. Marine Biology, USA
Gary Novak, M.S. Microbiology, USA
Geoff L. Austin, Ph.D. Professor of Physics, University of Auckland, New Zealand
Geoffrey G. Duffy, Ph.D. Professor of Chemical Engineering, University of Auckland, New Zealand
George E. McVehil, B.A. Physics, M.S. Ph.D. Meteorology, USA
George E. Smith, B.Sc. Physics and Mathematics, Lecturer, University of Auckland, Australia
George H. Taylor, State Climatologist of Oregon, Professor of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences, Oregon State University, USA
George Kukla, Special Research Scientist of Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory, Columbia University, USA
George V. Chilingarian, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Environmental Engineering, University of Southern California , USA
George Wilhelm Stroke, Ph.D. Physics, France
Gerd-Rainer Weber, M.Sc. Atmospheric Science, Ph.D. Meteorology, Germany
Gerhard Gerlich, Ph.D. Professor of Mathematical Physics, Technical University Carolo-Wilhelmina, Germany
Gerrit J. van der Lingen, Ph.D. Geology and Paleontology, New Zealand
Glenn E. Shaw, Professor Emeritus of Atmospheric Physics, University of Alaska, USA
Göran Ahlgren, Ph.D. Organic Chemistry, Sweden
Gordon E. Swaters, Ph.D. Professor of Applied Mathematics and Physical Oceanography, University of Alberta, Canada
Gordon J. Fulks, Ph.D. Physics, USA
Graham Smith, Professor of Geography, University of Western Ontario, Canada
Guy LeBlanc Smith, Ph.D. Geology, Australia
H. Grant (H.G.) Goodell, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Environmental Science, University of Virginia, USA
H. Leighton Steward, M.S. Geology, USA
Habibullo Abdussamatov, D.Sc. Head of the Space Research Laboratory of the Pulkovo Observatory, Russia
Hajo Smit, M.S. Environmental Science, Former Member, Dutch IPCC committee, The Netherlands
Hal W. Lewis, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Physics, University of California, Santa Barbara, USA
Hans Erren, B.Sc. Geology and Physics, M.Sc. Geophysics, The Netherlands
Hans Jelbring, Ph.D. Climatology, Sweden
Hans Schreuder, Analytical Chemist, UK
Harrison H. (Jack) Schmitt, Ph.D. Geology, Former NASA Astronaut, USA
Harry A. Taylor, Jr., Former Research Scientist, NASA Goddard
Space Flight Center, USA
Harry N.A. Priem, Professor Emeritus of Isotope and Planetary Geology, Utrecht University, The Netherlands
Hartwig Volz, Geophysicist, RWE Research Lab, Germany
Heinz Hug, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Organic Chemistry and Analytical Chemistry, University of Mainz, Germany
Hendrik Tennekes, Former Director of Research, Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute, The Netherlands
Henrik Svensmark, Ph.D. Director of the Center for Sun-Climate Research, Danish National Space Center, Denmark
Henry R. Linden, Ph.D. Chemical Engineering, USA
Howard C. Hayden, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Physics, University of Connecticut, USA
Howard Maccabee, Ph.D. Biophysics, USA
Hugh W. Ellsaesser, Ph.D. Meteorology, USA
Ian Bock, Ph.D. D.Sc. Biological Science, Denmark
Ian D. Clark, Ph.D. Professor of Earth Science, University of Ottawa, Canada
Ian R. Plimer, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Earth Sciences, University of Melbourne, Australia
Indur M. Goklany, Ph.D. Science and Policy Analyst, U.S. Department of the Interior, Former Principal Author, IPCC, USA
Ivar Giaever, Ph.D. Physics, Nobel Prize in Physics 1973, Norway
J. Floor Anthoni, Ph.D. Computer Science, New Zealand
J. Scott Armstrong, B.A. Applied Science, B.S. Industrial Engineering, Ph.D. MIT, USA
Jack Barrett, Ph.D. Physical Chemistry, UK
Jack Welch, B.S. M.S. Ph.D. Chemical Engineering, USA
Jacques Robin, Ph.D. Professor of Computer Science, Universidade Federal de Pernambuco, Brazil
James A. Peden, B.S. Physics and Mathematics, M.S. Experimental Physics, Atmospheric Scientist, USA
James Brooks, Ph.D. Geophysics, Australia
James Goodridge, Retired California State Climatologist, USA
James J. O’Brien, Ph.D. Meteorology, USA
James R. Stalker, Ph.D. Atmospheric Science, USA
James W. Buckee, Ph.D. Astrophysics, Canada
Ján Veizer, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Earth Science, University of Ottawa, Canada
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Noah E. Robinson, Ph.D. Professor of Chemistry, Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine, USA
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Neil Hutton, Ph.D. Geology, Canada
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Nigel Marsh, Senior Scientist, Center for Sun-Climate Research, Danish National Space Center, Denmark
Nils-Axel Mörner, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Palegeophysics and Geodynamics, Stockholm University, Sweden
Nima Sanandaji, Ph.D. Biochemistry, UK
Nir J. Shaviv, Ph.D. Professor of Physics, The Hebrew University of Jerusalem, Israel
Norman Brown, Professor Emeritus of Chemistry, University of Ulster, UK
Ola M. Johannessen, Professor of Oceanography, University of Bergen, Norway
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Philip K. Chapman, B.S. Physics and Mathematics, M.S., Ph.D. Instrumentation, MIT, Former NASA Astronaut, Australia
Philip Lloyd, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Environmental Chemical Engineering, University of the Witwatersrand, South Africa
Philip Stott, Professor Emeritus of Biogeography, University of London, UK
Piers Corbyn, B.Sc. Physics, M.Sc. Astrophysics, UK
R.G. Roper, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Atmospheric Science, Georgia Institute of Technology, USA
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R. W. Gauldie, Ph.D. Research Professor Emeritus of Ocean and Earth Science, University of Hawaii, USA
Raphael A.J. Wust, M.Sc., Ph.D. Lecturer of Earth Science, James Cook University, Australia
Ralf D. Tscheuschner, Ph.D. Physics, Germany
Ralph B. Alexander, Ph.D. Physics, USA
Randall Cerveny, Ph.D. Geography, USA
Richard A. Keen, Ph.D. Professor of Climatology, University of Colorado, USA
Richard C. Willson, Ph.D. Atmospheric Science, USA
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Richard T. McNider, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Environmental Science, University of Alabama in Huntsville, USA
Rob Scagel, M.Sc., Forest Microclimate Specialist, Canada
Robert C. Balling Jr., Ph.D. Professor of Geography, Former Director, Office of Climatology, Arizona State University, USA
Robert C. Whitten, Physicist, Retired Research Scientist, NASA, USA
Robert E. Davis, Ph.D. Professor of Climatology, University of Virginia, USA
Robert G. Williscroft, B.Sc. Oceanography and Meteorology, M.Sc. Ph.D. Engineering, USA
Robert Giegengack, Ph.D. Professor of Earth and Environmental Science, University of Pennsylvania, USA
Robert H. Austin, Ph.D. Professor of Physics, Princeton University, USA
Robert H. Essenhigh, M.S. Natural Science, Ph.D. Chemical Engineering, UK
Robert L. Kovach, Professor of Geophysics, Stanford University, USA
Robert M. Carter, Ph.D. Professor of Environmental and Earth Science, James Cook University, Australia
Robin Vaughan, Ph.D. Physics, UK
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Roger A. Pielke Jr. Ph.D. Professor of Environmental Studies, University of Colorado at Boulder, USA
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Syun-Ichi Akasofu, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Geophysics, University of Alaska Fairbanks, USA
Tad S. Murty, Ph.D. Oceanography and Meteorology, USA
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Tom V. Segalstad, Ph.D. Professor of Environmental Geology, University of Oslo, Norway
Ulrich Berner, Geologist, Federal Institute for Geosciences, Germany
Vern Harnapp, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Geography, University of Akron, USA
Victor Manuel Velasco Herrera, Ph.D. Researcher, Institute of Geophysics, Department of Solar and Planetary Research, Mexico
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Vincent R. Gray, Ph.D. Physical Chemistry, Expert Reviewer, IPCC, New Zealand
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Vladimir M. Kotlyakov, Ph.D. Director of the Institute of Geography, Russian Academy of Sciences, Russia
Yong-Sang Choi, B.S. Earth Science Education and Statistics, Ph.D. Atmospheric Science, Korea
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William F. Smyth, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, McMaster University, Canada
Willem de Lange, Ph.D. Senior Lecturer of Earth and Ocean Science, Waikato University, New Zealand
William B. Hubbard, Ph.D. Professor of Planetary Atmospheres, University of Arizona, USA
William Bauman, Ph.D. Atmospheric Science, USA
William E. Reifsnyder, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Forest Meteorology and Biometeorology, Yale, USA
William Happer, Ph.D. Professor of Physics, Princeton University, USA
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William R. Cotton, M.S. Atmospheric Science, Ph.D. Meteorology, Pennsylvania State University, USA
Willie H. Soon, Ph.D. Astrophysicist, Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, USA
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Wolfgang Thüne, Ph.D. Geography, Germany
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http://www.populartechnology.net/2007/10/no-consensus-on-global-warming.html

89% of state climatologists said that current science is unable to prove man-made global warming (National Center for Policy Analysis)

80% of IPCC Scientists said that human activity is not the principal driver of climate change (PR Newswire)

69.9% of Climate Scientists agree climate change will have beneficial effects (PDF) (The Heartland Institute)

68% of Alberta Earth Scientists and Engineers Do Not Believe the Science is Settled on Climate Change (Edmonton Journal)

64.9% of Climate Scientists do not agree that science can predict the future climate (PDF) (The Heartland Institute)
56% of Climate Scientists do not agree that the scientific debate on climate change is over (PDF) (The Heartland Institute)

55% of Peer-Reviewed Papers Do Not Endorse Global Warming Theory (DailyTech)

Copenhagen Consensus 2004 (Copenhagen Consensus)

[Bob434]

one of the strongest proofs that man made CO2 is NOT causing global climate change is the fact that even htough CO2 has been steadily rising since 1900 we’ve still had

[[We see that the correlation between CO2 and temperature is no more significant today than it was ages back when there were no automobiles and industry. The author also goes into the effects of the ocean and sunspots. Lansner’s conclusion is that CO2 rises do not cause the temperature rises, but follows them – “The well known Temperature-CO2 relation with temperature as a driver of CO2 is easily shown.” [Emphasis added.] ]]

[[This information shows that the correlation between CO2 and the earth’s warming does not show that CO2 is the driver of the warming, because the increase in CO2 follows the increase in warming.]]

Soemthign else that isn’t htoguht of much is the fact that insects swarm en mass when tempos climb, they die off in massive quantities, and release copious amounts of CO2

[[There are more plants and animals to give off CO2 when it is warm enough. An example: “Armies of insects once crawled through lush forests in a region of Greenland now covered by more than 2,000m of ice.”[6]]]

http://www.americantraditions.org/Articles/New%20Evidence%20that%20Man-Made%20Carbon%20Dioxide%20(CO2)%20Does%20Not%20Cause%20Global%20Warming.htm

[[Our own government has given out what is presumably scientific information about global warming that is proven false. The following is an example.

The definition of “greenhouse gases” of the U. S. Energy Information Association (EIA) and their effect is: “Many chemical compounds found in the Earth’s atmosphere act as “greenhouse gases.” These gases allow sunlight to enter the atmosphere freely. When sunlight strikes the Earth’s surface, some of it is reflected back towards space as infrared radiation (heat). Greenhouse gases absorb this infrared radiation and trap the heat in the atmosphere. Over time, the amount of energy sent from the sun to the Earth’s surface should be about the same as the amount of energy radiated back into space, leaving the temperature of the Earth’s surface roughly constant. Many gases exhibit these “greenhouse” properties. Some of them occur in nature (water vapor, carbon dioxide, methane, and nitrous oxide), while others are exclusively human-made (like gases used for aerosols).”[24] The highlighted statements are false on their face, and they are the primary basis of the claims that greenhouse gases cause global warming.

The falsity of the above statements that greenhouse gases have a one way effect, allowing “sunlight to enter the atmosphere freely” and then trapping and holding the heat near the earth, should be apparent to anyone with a little bit of common sense. They even include water vapor, which is a part of clouds It is ridiculous, and it is disgraceful.

The Encyclopedia of Earth states: “Only about 40% of the solar energy intercepted at the top of Earth’s atmosphere passes through to the surface. The atmosphere reflects and scatters some of the received visible radiation. Gamma rays, X-rays, and ultraviolet radiation less than 200 nanometers in wavelength are selectively absorbed in the atmosphere by oxygen and nitrogen and turned into heat energy. Most of the solar ultraviolet radiation with a range of wavelengths from 200 to 300 nm is absorbed by the concentration of ozone (O3) gas found in the stratosphere. Infrared solar radiation with wavelengths greater than 700 nm is partially absorbed by carbon dioxide, ozone, and water present in the atmosphere in liquid and vapour forms. Roughly 30% of the sun’s visible radiation (wavelengths from 400 nm to 700 nm) is reflected back to space by the atmosphere or the Earth’s surface.”[25] [Emphasis added.]

One important thing disclosed by the above is that we have infrared solar radiation coming from the sun that is absorbed by carbon dioxide. This keeps it from ever reaching the earth, and protects against global warming. The global warmers never talk about this critical aspect – they only talk about the infrared heat waves coming back from the earth.]]

Interesting article showing that man is not, can not, be the driving force of climate change

[Bob434]

repost from the cited material above

[[Our own government has given out what is presumably scientific information about global warming that is proven false. The following is an example.

The definition of “greenhouse gases” of the U. S. Energy Information Association (EIA) and their effect is: “Many chemical compounds found in the Earth’s atmosphere act as “greenhouse gases.” These gases allow sunlight to enter the atmosphere freely. When sunlight strikes the Earth’s surface, some of it is reflected back towards space as infrared radiation (heat). Greenhouse gases absorb this infrared radiation and trap the heat in the atmosphere. Over time, the amount of energy sent from the sun to the Earth’s surface should be about the same as the amount of energy radiated back into space, leaving the temperature of the Earth’s surface roughly constant. Many gases exhibit these “greenhouse” properties. Some of them occur in nature (water vapor, carbon dioxide, methane, and nitrous oxide), while others are exclusively human-made (like gases used for aerosols).”[24] The highlighted statements are false on their face, and they are the primary basis of the claims that greenhouse gases cause global warming.

The falsity of the above statements that greenhouse gases have a one way effect, allowing “sunlight to enter the atmosphere freely” and then trapping and holding the heat near the earth, should be apparent to anyone with a little bit of common sense. They even include water vapor, which is a part of clouds It is ridiculous, and it is disgraceful.

The Encyclopedia of Earth states: “Only about 40% of the solar energy intercepted at the top of Earth’s atmosphere passes through to the surface. The atmosphere reflects and scatters some of the received visible radiation. Gamma rays, X-rays, and ultraviolet radiation less than 200 nanometers in wavelength are selectively absorbed in the atmosphere by oxygen and nitrogen and turned into heat energy. Most of the solar ultraviolet radiation with a range of wavelengths from 200 to 300 nm is absorbed by the concentration of ozone (O3) gas found in the stratosphere. Infrared solar radiation with wavelengths greater than 700 nm is partially absorbed by carbon dioxide, ozone, and water present in the atmosphere in liquid and vapour forms. Roughly 30% of the sun’s visible radiation (wavelengths from 400 nm to 700 nm) is reflected back to space by the atmosphere or the Earth’s surface.”[25] [Emphasis added.]

One important thing disclosed by the above is that we have infrared solar radiation coming from the sun that is absorbed by carbon dioxide. This keeps it from ever reaching the earth, and protects against global warming. The global warmers never talk about this critical aspect – they only talk about the infrared heat waves coming back from the earth.]]

You will hear a great many ‘man-caused climate change’ advocates explain in great detail how infrared heat that is captured by CO2 I nthe atmosphere, and how it gets back radiate to earth, and how that is what is ‘causing climate change’ yet you will never hear them discussing the fact that what little CO2 there is I n atmosphere, along with ‘greenhouse gases’ actually protect this planet from overheating and cancel out any piddly amount of infrared heat that is captured by the whopping 0.00022% CO2 by volume in our atmosphere that man has produced

I’ve asked time and time again for someone to explain how just 0.00137% of our atmosphere can capture enough heat, then back radiate it at a fraction of the volume it captured it at, to cause global climate change

If only 0.00022% of 6 quadrillion tons of atmosphere is actually capturing infrared heat from earth as a direct result of man- then there is no way on this green earth that that tiny fraction of captured heat can warm the planet’s 6 quadrillion tons of air

Take a glass full of 98 Degree water- then take a dropper, fill it with 0.00022% by volume 98 degrees water, let the glass water cool down to 97 degrees, and plop that 0.00022% water into that glass and tell me how it will raise the overall temperature of the glasswater? one iota?

It’s not like the whole atmosphere is completely sealed off and NEVER letting any heat out- infact, the vast majority, nearly 100% of earth’s infrared heat, goes right on out to space because there simply is nothing to speak of to stop it- and man’s piddly 0.00022% or less even, for them to claim that that amount is causing climate change on a global scale, (remember, they have made the false statement that ‘Man is almost entirely responsible for climate change” AND “We are 98% sure now that man is causing climate change” is just ridiculous- they should be ashamed of themselves for touting such a blatant lie! 0.00022% of our atmosphere will NEVER be able to capture enough heat to cause ANY kind of change to our earth’s temperatures!

[palmer]

Let's do some math-
The total mass of Earth’s atmosphere is about 5.5 quadrillion tons,
Man has produced how many tons over the industrial age?

The 5 quadrillion tons sounds about right. Manmade CO2 is well over 3.66 times 400 Gt. Here's an old paper showing 379 Gt in 1990: http://www.csun.edu/~hmc60533/CSUN_311/article_references/Sc_Feb93_GlobalCO2Budget.pdf

Take the 400 Gt of C from table 3 in the paper and multiply by 3.66 to get 1,464,000,000,000 tons of CO2. Divide by 5,148,010,180,000,000 tons and get 0.00028 or 0.028%

A lot of that was reabsorbed by nature, so use the residual from the same table 98 Gt or 358,680,000,000 tons of CO2. Divide by 5 quadrillion tons and get 0.00007 or 0.007% The total CO2 in the atmosphere is 0.0004 or 0.04% so mankind's CO2 would be 17.5% of the total CO2 as of 1990 or a little later.

[palmer]

following is al ist of scientists whio do not think man is causing the cyclical wamrign events

Roy Spencer is on the list. Here's what he says:
Now, you might be surprised to learn that the amount of warming directly caused by the extra CO2 is, by itself, relatively weak. It has been calculated theoretically that, if there are no other changes in the climate system, a doubling of the atmospheric CO2 concentration would cause less than 1 deg C of surface warming (about 1 deg. F). This is NOT a controversial statementâ¦it is well understood by climate scientists.Now, you might be surprised to learn that the amount of warming directly caused by the extra CO2 is, by itself, relatively weak. It has been calculated theoretically that, if there are no other changes in the climate system, a doubling of the atmospheric CO2 concentration would cause less than 1 deg C of surface warming (about 1 deg. F). This is NOT a controversial statementâ¦it is well understood by climate scientists.

http://www.drroyspencer.com/global-warming-101/

[djf]

Antarctica is the continent with the highest average elevation.

IIRC, it’s something like 7,000 feet.

And most of that is ice.