Posted on 07/28/2015 3:01:13 AM PDT by markomalley
Three Senators and House leadership every year.
The message of Cantor carried little weight.
> I’m afraid you will have a lot of company. We have stopped any contributions to the rinos. When called by their solicitors, we advise them as to why we are no longer supporting them. Our thoughts and reasons must be falling on deaf ears s nothing is changing or has changed. A third party will all but insure a demodummie victory in 2016.
They don’t need our money. They got Soro’s...
There’s only so many token gestures these guys can make toward a base they have zero intention of representing the interests of, before that base looks for other options.
When is the last time you remember Congress having approval ratings out of the teens?
Does anyone remember Congress not having underwater approvals?
For Conservatives that would be a bridge too far. I just don’t see us, right now, having the kind of organizing capability for more than one concerted removal effort.
Plus it risks electing two too many Democrats who might be impossible to get out six years down the road.
People love to hate Congress, but usually like their own Congressman.
So the generic Congressional opinion numbers are worthless.
The tea party—no, not the huckster national “leaders” of the tea party, but the original tea party idea and foot soldiers should organize as a party to back their candidates on the GOP ticket. If that doesn’t work, then they’ll at least have the organization to start challenging them directly.
That is the conventional wisdom, but thinking about it, does it make any sense really that such a huge majority are going to accept that the country is headed the wrong way and that Congress stinks WITHOUT taking the first offramp that presents itself on the highway to hell?
The GOPe I think has talked itself into believing that powder kegs make stable and safe seating options.
I think a very prophetic clip would be a video, morphing Chris Mathews’ grim frown in to the grim frown Sean Hannity is going to be wearing election night 2016.
At rate the GOPe is going, I suspect the Republican conservative turnout will be around 10%. My guess is most of us will be voting third party or independent or just hanging out. Drinking heavily.
No, the Dem voters are quite happy with their representatives.
Spot on.
(Soul of the South says)"The progressive country club wing of the GOP is in charge.
" After what happened with the Thad Cochran, McConnell thing it seems to me that corruption at the voting booth may be the biggest problem conservatives must solve IF they want to accomplish anything.....
From my prospective here in southern Ohio I find McConnell's reelection....baffling.
>>I don’t think you understand how the “political frat brothers” think and how they have their noses up the asses of anyone who may boost their political career while ignoring their real job of representing the voters who put them there.
I don’t think you understand. I responded to a post that talked about the gains we’ve made. These frat brothers are asses in seats, but are not “gains”. We have to have the short term loss of creating a new party so we can make real gains. The ones who are willing to leave the frat are welcome. The rest are just Progs with an R after their name and do us more harm than good.
Absolutely! I thought we missed a chance in 2010 when we had the wave of new conservatives in Congress. When it was clear that it was business as usual, I had hoped that a third party could be formed right there in Congress. Band conservatives together and caucus with the Republicans, but on terms more agreeable to us. Right now, Yurtle and Boner feel free to ostracize any conservative they wish. With a 3rd party, the conservatives are free to caucus with either party, whichever gives them the more favorable terms.
“People love to hate Congress, but usually like their own Congressman.”
Loyalty is a two-way street. This article nails it.
My representative is a Boehner sycophant and is always sending me surveys and boilerplate prepared by the speaker’s office.
I believe he understands that as far as I’m concerned along with most conservatives in northeast Indiana, he’s on his own.
Yes, that’s a political axiom and usually you would be right but these are extraordinary times.
The GOP are the Whigs, divided into two major factions by too many issues—from infanticide to national security to the proper functions of government—and it is 1851 again.
Five years later, after they failed to select their incumbent to run for president, politicians like Lincoln had taken a break from politics, then switched to Republican and the Whigs were no longer a viable political party.
In a nutshell, we—the mouse in my pocket and I—we’re fed up with the McCain-like behavior that has become the norm, the GOP’s two-faced BS.
“would throw away all the gains made at the state level.”
You understand what the Founders did to fight British tyranny.
You first secure your neighborhood by electing conservatives to town councils, county boards and schoolboards. This establishes a secure political base to operate from. You also elect a pro-2nd amendment, Constitutional sheriff in your county.
It’s much easier to take back America county by county than trying to clean out the Washington DC swamp.
These simple acts of voting locally give you legal, investigative and armed muscle to take on the Washington fascists. By controlling counties, a thousand brushfires can be set. The federal fascists simply don’t have the manpower to tamp out local rebellions in a thousand different counties.
This talk about forming a national third party is complete nonsense at this time. It’s possible on a local level but not nationally.
>>Absolutely! I thought we missed a chance in 2010 when we had the wave of new conservatives in Congress. When it was clear that it was business as usual, I had hoped that a third party could be formed right there in Congress. Band conservatives together and caucus with the Republicans, but on terms more agreeable to us. Right now, Yurtle and Boner feel free to ostracize any conservative they wish. With a 3rd party, the conservatives are free to caucus with either party, whichever gives them the more favorable terms.
You are the rare person who actually gets it! Well said.
Even purple VA at the state level is rock solid conservative.
Ditto.
If the RINOs cared about my support, they would have supported Republican Tea Party candidates in 2010, gained control of the Senate, and been capable of blocking the ACA. I’m not certain this was something they wanted to accomplish. Instead, they were more concerned about controlling the party. Either Miller, O’Donnell, or Buck would have provided a blocking vote.
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