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To: sf4dubya
How about a conservative nominee for once? Trump certainly isn’t one.

I would gladly join you but just who do we got? Walker? Can he even move Wisconsin into the win column? Cruz? What state can he deliver above and beyond Romney or McCain? To squeak by they need FL and OH for sure and some flips like PA, MI, NC, CO, VA. There may have been a time when a resume' conservative made the difference in such states but I can't imagine how today. I wrote this in another thread:

If Trump can actually nail down the nomination the stupid (R)epublicrats better realize the catbird seat they occupy. Trump self-financing the main ticket is an extremely rare and positive development because it would entirely free up the party resources ( $200 million maybe ) to swamp the (D)ummies in Congressional and local elections. If they have any brains and coordinate properly they could create a landslide and mandate resembling 1972 and 1984. In both those years the electorate had their pitchforks out as well, to ensure a McGovern or a Mondale doesn't bring radicalism to main street.

Trump needs to seriously figure out how to pick off New York or California. Both would be the landslide scenario but either one locks it up. And this is easily do-able by going after blue-collar and union members. They used to run 52-48 but have moved to 60-40 or more in recent years depending on economics and other circumstances so a swing of 10% minimum puts it squarely in play. A *real* campaign in either or both states would traumatize the (D)ummies and deplete their resources everywhere else. He is financially able to compete in these states whereas the recent Rhino efforts were to leave them alone resulting in 60-40 ratios. That said, MI, PA, CT, OH, and more are definitely do-able and would devastate the (D)efensive bankroll.

With the help of the stupid party legalizing the illegal aliens soon THERE WILL BE NO MORE PATH TO ELECTORAL VICTORY. Who's going to stop that? Cruz? Walker? How? This window is closing now. I really doubt our dream candidate can make a difference.

217 years ago we were in a similarly dangerous crisis. Our two most important Founders came to the rescue and ( at least temporarily ) saved the country, but they had to employ extraordinary measures. See here. I bring this up because I do not see anyone down there in the District of Criminals, including "war heroes" like McCain, willing to risk anything for the country and the constitution they swore to defend. They are all wussies save for a select few.

Anyway, please tell me I'm wrong and sketch out a 270+ electoral scenario convincing me to vote for one of the 15 dwarfs.

But more importantly, if one of them can thread this needle and get 280 or 300, then what? Where's the leverage over those putrid Congress-scum? I ask this because any of the 15 will beholden to the (R)at party that financed their narrow victory at great cost. The cash will almost all be spent on the main ticket and they might just lose Congress again in the process. Deadlock. Or more likely capitulation where we win the White House and the Congress takes over! That would be the perfect conclusion, for the (D)ummies.

162 posted on 07/23/2015 7:30:58 PM PDT by Democratic-Republican
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To: Democratic-Republican; sf4dubya; All

We really need to start pushing for instant run-off voting or similar mechanism if there is to be any hope for third party or minority party influence.


223 posted on 07/24/2015 9:42:23 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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