If you read my post #19 you will see my true
position with respect to the 6 state plan vs
the State of Jefferson plan.
If MA could show that they have representation
and administration of government issues then
they may make a case for splitting into 2 or
more states. But they can’t and your example
is absurd.
If I may ask, just where in California did you live?
It doesn’t seem like you got around much but don’t take
offense. None intended.
you’re still not grasping the essential issue.
you can’t try to game the system by splitting a state into many states in order to gain a political advantage against other states without alienating the other states, and that’s what any movement to split CA (or any other state) will ultimately be seen as, outside of that state.
even if a minority in CA don’t feel that their statewide representation cares one bit about their opinions. it happens here and it happens in lots of other states too. secession movements just can’t succeed in the modern age. i think the last one that worked was at the outset of the civil war when VA split into WV and VA, with one staying in the union and the other leaving it.
i spent almost a dozen years in the bay area. i hated it there. the people were not like me and did not believe the things i believed. it was like living in a bizzaro foreign country where up meant down and white meant black. you can probably count on one hand the number of true conservatives there. i was happy to leave. but for all of that, i still would have voted against any referendum to split CA into 2. even if it was an east/west split instead of a north/south split. not only because of the problems it would have caused in the state, but also because i know how feckless the GOP is there and eventually, all 4 of those senate seats would end up in ‘RAT hands for life. other states would not tolerate having their representation diluted either.
consider FDR’s proposal to expand the SCOTUS when he wasn’t able to gain control of the majority by appointment. that was rightly seen as an attempt to stack the court. don’t you think the other 49 states would object in the exact same way to CA going from 2 senators to 12 senators? this is the essential point.
even if CA votes to split into 2 or 4 or 6 or 200 separate states, it’s not gonna fly with the rest of the country. CA can’t force the rest of us to accept them multiplying their influence in DC in this way. and if they were somehow able to get away with it, the floodgates would be open. IL would immediately talk about splitting. same with NY. same with PA. same with lots of other states. and you’d end up with lots more ‘RAT senators in DC overall that would counteract the 2 or 3 GOP senators maybe added by the CA split.