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To: TangibleDisgust

I am not sure I follow what you mean
regarding diluting political power of
other states if California is split into
several separate states. California does
not get more representation. States are
independent. The conservative people of
my region (new state) are not going to
elect the same kind of people that the
voters of the “State of Greater Los Angeles”
(or whatever they are called) will choose.
Truthfully, in the case of the proposed state
of Jefferson do you think the mainly
conservative people who are promoting it actually
want more liberal legislators? Hell no!

Diluting the power of other states? Well, maybe the
liberal states. Unless you are a liberal Democrat
it doesn’t seem like you should be bothered. What
am I missing?


38 posted on 07/23/2015 10:05:01 AM PDT by Sivad (NorCal red turf ;-))
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To: Sivad

california splitting into 6 californias would not yield much change in power in the house where representatives are apportioned due to population.

but it makes a big difference in the senate where each state gets 2 senators. that would be a BIG problem for other states, and you would find Texas and NY and other states with large populations immediately consider doing the same thing. it’s basic self-interest.

it doesn’t matter what parties they belong to either. the simple existence of 12 california senators would piss off the 2 from NY or the 2 from TX or the 2 from FL. there are issues that all 12 senators from california would find common cause on that other states would not. that’s a problem. that’s what i mean by dilution. for example, water issues. there’s no way AZ and NM and CO and UT and WY and NV would want to see their 12 current senate votes marginalized by turning 2 CA senators into 12. let’s say there is a dispute about the amount of water that flows from colorado river to california to meet the exploding needs of illegals in california. right now, california has some say in federal policy with 2 senate votes, but nobody would be happy to give them final say with 12 votes. water rights in arid western states is a big issue, as you no doubt already know.

http://web.stanford.edu/group/ruralwest/cgi-bin/drupal/content/what-seven-states-can-agree-do-deal-making-colorado-river

just one of many examples. don’t think about it in terms of national policy... think about it in terms of the balance of power between neighboring states.


39 posted on 07/23/2015 10:42:50 AM PDT by TangibleDisgust ("To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." - Voltaire)
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