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To: kaila

To your points...
1. It was a valid stop for a valid traffic violation. Cops stop cars for that all the time because it is the law. Many accidents occur because people fail to signal.
2. Nobody ever said she was under the influence, but her history suggests drug possession
3. He didn’t ask ‘if’ she was irritated, but rather ‘why’ she was hostile. This was a valid question to understand her hostile behavior, which started from the beginning of the stop.
4. Both should have been more respectful and polite
5. In TX, asking her to put out the cig or get out the car are both appropriate. We don’t know the cop’s motivation yet, but he may have had a valid reason. He may not have. Either way, her refusals gave him a valid reason since her refusals were in violation of the law. She was still detained.
6. The physical altercation could be out of camera deliberately (we don’t know yet), but it could also be because she was fighting and resisting him. People that do that generally don’t stay in one place. They will pull away from the cop, forcing the cop to give chase. The cameras don’t move so if the suspect moves, the cop has little choice, but to move also. We don’t know the details yet
7. The cop was rude, which may be against policy, but not illegal. Her refusals were illegal, which led to her arrest so the fault lies with her.


185 posted on 07/22/2015 11:36:29 AM PDT by TXDuke
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To: TXDuke

She was in jail for 3 days. She threatened to call her lawyer on the video, why didn’t she call him and get out of jail? Spending 3 days in jail for a minor traffic infraction seems a bit much.


189 posted on 07/22/2015 11:43:57 AM PDT by Ditter ( God Bless Texas!)
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To: TXDuke
1. It may have been a valid stop, but really a stupid one. Don't waste time on the small stuff.
2.Her history has nothing to do with the current encounter. it cannot even be used in court. She answered in a confident and reasonable manner. In no way did she appear intoxicated.
3.He should not have even asked the question. Really, her attitude had nothing to do with the stop and she was complying ( at that point) .
4.She was polite until he made the unreasonable request to put out her cig. There was nothing up to that point which would cause him to further detain her. He was looking for an opening.
Yes, she was in the wrong refusing to get out of the car. I think he attacked her first. If I was a juror, I would find in her favor.
Cops should learn not to be rude. In the medical world, we deal with rude behavior all the time. If we allowed the behavior to escalate by provocation, there would be a lot more beat up nurses and physicians. Yet, we try to de escalate the situation. Cops should do this, too.
There should be no place for rude cops.
If I was her, I would have done everything just like she did -until he asked me out of the car. I would have complied. I now know to always be in camera range, and I would request that.

208 posted on 07/22/2015 12:23:59 PM PDT by kaila
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