Posted on 07/21/2015 9:50:36 PM PDT by Dallas59
That isn’t why she was being arrested.
I’ve watched it twice.
She needed to shut up, do what the officer said. Sign the ticket, drive away.
it doesn’t matter what you or she thinks about the cop.
He was not being perfectly pleasant to her. He had attitude. He asked her if something was wrong and when she answered him he got mad and ordered her to put out her cigarette and get out of the car.
She didn’t seem suicidal to me.
Just one uninformed person’s opinion. I would like a link to an analysis done by someone expert in these kind of things.
There are people at legal insurrection who do that kind of thing from time to time. Hopefully, they will do it to this video.
I think cops have a responsibility to be reasonable, especially when we are talking about nothing but a failure to signal. I disagree with this all-powerful cop position where the person must cower in submission. She was responding to his jerkiness.
I’ve watched it twice. it was already past saying at that point.
She escalated the incident and iy tunrned out as expected.
Did your parents ever teach you how to behave around the police? My mother was an attorney ... she said, do what the police tell you to do. After it’s over we’ll sue or fight it in court.
Yep. Left it after the tow truck showed up.
And to be honest, my jaw drops every time you have posted on this thread.
I hope to God if you are ever pulled over, do NOT take your own advice.
This is such a tragedy.
It looks like an episode of COPS. Where do people learn to ignore police officers like that? At least she didn’t get tazed or shot.
Based on her prior arrests and convictions it looks like she was addicted to alcohol and marijuana. When she couldn’t make bail after 3 days in jail, the withdrawal must have set in.
It’s too bad all of her friends couldn’t be bothered to help her out when she was in jail. She’d be alive now.
If she isn't too young to smoke and there is no immediate hazard (like a puddle of gasoline), it is her car.
He can request it, but demand?
And escalated the situation.
There are bad cops just like there are bad service station attendants.
You will never win when they have pulled you over.
Do what he says, sue him the next day.
Really, you want to just sign that ticket and drive off. Endure him for those minutes then sue him.
I agree. I am sick megalomaniacs terrorizing citizens for minor offenses.
I hear what you are saying. Although I wonder how the order to put out the cigarette had anything to do with officer safety.
Yet, it seems clear, to me at least, that those orders to put out the cigarette and then get out of the care were the direct result of her following his express direction to explain what’s wrong, and him simply not liking the words that came out of her mouth—even though she directly and honestly responded to his question. I don’t think cops ought to be able to penalize people for doing exactly what they are ordered to do, or simply saying what they are thinking.
So by asking her if something is wrong, that demonstrates he had an attitude?
How do you figure?
Do you know that a lit cigarette can be used as a weapon?
What do you think would happen if someone jammed a lit cigarette into another person’s eye?
Hmmm?
What do you think could happen?
After he ordered her to put out the cigarette and get out of the car, don’t you think things may have gone better for her had she obeyed those lawful orders?
I do.
And no she didn’t seem suicidal to me either, though I imagine that she probably seemed more suicidal at the time she actually committed suicide.
I’m not sure why he asked her to put out her cigarette, but that’s when everything went south. Then she refused to step out of her car. He was more than courteous up to that point.
I would have put out my ciggy and would be contemplating my next move, as soon as I got away from the prick.
He wasn’t scary until she didn’t bow to his authority.
Jerks like that you smile, nod and comply. He wasn’t an intimidate threat.
Then you come at him with power greater than his own. That’s his gig—power.
Then it’s I win and you lose.
Good day, officer.
You do not have control over whether he’s an a-hole. You can’t complain to anyone while you are pulled over.
Get yourself as quick as possible to signing the ticket. The next day, take it up with authorities.
YOU are not in control.
She was much worse, had more violations AND was driving with a suspended license. They at least told her what was happening. My only question with this one is she was accused of swinging at him and I did not see that at all. She did not get out of the car when he asked her, but I do not think she took a swing at him.
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