[Alas Babylon!]

I knew a lot of officers I disliked very much. Arrogant, stupid, and ungrateful, felt that being in command meant they where morally and intellectually superior and just a better person. In fact, in the Air Force, especially among fighter pilots, that’s the vast majority (IMHO). I fly—my $h1t don’t stink!

I have no doubt McCain was like that.

The world might have been better if McCain had died? I’ll bet if that had happened, no one here would say he was less than a hero.

Given that, I do believe many of you are looking with a LOT of hindsight in the life of McCain,and yes, it clouds your judgment.

I really don’t think we need to Monday morning, armchair quarterback his actions of that day. That’s all.

Otherwise, have at him, and I’ll join you. :-)

[silverleaf]

I’m saying I knew personally several POWs

Great officers all - except one who was nucking futs but that Is another story

And were surprised they were contemptuous of McCain

But not surprised they didn’t want to talk about him

What went on in Hanoi stayed in Hanoi
Trump was good to call Juan on his self aggrandizing political career

When obama is criticized he yells race and when Juan is criticized he yells POW-HERO.....

Same same

Meanwhile Juan’s arrogance, neglect and downright meanness toward other vets and to the families of the POWs who never came home. .... and to conservatives and his own constituents....Stinks. No hindsight. Just fact.

[SandwicheGuy]

I knew a lot of officers I disliked very much. Arrogant, stupid, and ungrateful, felt that being in command meant they where morally and intellectually superior and just a better person. In fact, in the Air Force, especially among fighter pilots, that’s the vast majority (IMHO). I fly—my $h1t don’t stink!

Ah, a misfit, couldn't make the cut to be an Officer, or worse, afraid to step up to the plate. Now I understand your posts.