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To: spacejunkie2001
I receievd this in an e-mail recently...

4 Simple Questions .....

1. Back in 1961 people of color were called 'Negroes’. So how can the Obama 'birth certificate' state he is "African-American" when the term wasn't even used at that time ?

2. The birth certificate that the White House released lists Obama's birth as August 4, 1961 and Lists Barack Hussein Obama as his father. No big deal, Right? At the time of Obama's birth, it also shows that his father is aged 25 years old, and that Obama's father was born in "Kenya, East Africa".

This wouldn't seem like anything of concern, except the fact that Kenya did not even exist until 1963, two whole years after Obama's birth, and 27 years after his father's birth. How could Obama's father have been born in a country that did not yet Exist ?

Up and until Kenya was formed in 1963, it was known as the "British East Africa Protectorate". (check it below)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenya_%28http:/en.wikipedia..org/wiki/Kenya%29

3. On the Birth Certificate released by the White House, the listed place of birth is "Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital".

This cannot be, because the hospital(s) in question in 1961 were called "KauiKeolani Children's Hospital" and "Kapi'olani Maternity Home", respectively.

The name did not change to Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until 1978, when these two hospitals merged. How can this particular name of the hospital be on a birth certificate dated 1961 if this name had not yet been applied to it until 1978?

(CHECK IT BELOW)

( http://www.kapiolani.org/women-and-children/about-us/default.aspx )

Why hasn't this been discussed in the major media?

4. Perhaps a clue comes from Obama's book on his father. He states how proud he is of his father fighting in WW II. I'm not a math genius, so I may need some help from you. Barack Obama's "birth certificate" says his father was 25 years old in 1961 when Obama was born. That should have put his father's date of birth approximately 1936 - if my math holds (Honest! I did that without a calculator!) Now we need a non-revised history book-one that hasn't been altered to satisfy the author's goals-to verify that WW II was basically between 1939 and 1945. Just how many 3 year olds fight in Wars? Even in the latest stages of WW II his father wouldn't have been more than 9 years old. Does that mean that Mr. Obama is a liar, or simply chooses to alter the facts to satisfy his imagination or political purposes ?

Very truly yours,

RICHARD R. SILVERLIEB Attorney at Law 354 Eisenhower Parkway Livingston, NJ 07039

5 posted on 07/18/2015 1:02:55 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: gorush

“4. Perhaps a clue comes from Obama’s book on his father. He states how proud he is of his father fighting in WW II.”

Obama wrote about his grandfather. It’s in the book.

/Obama still sucks


8 posted on 07/18/2015 1:07:18 PM PDT by Noamie
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To: gorush

1. To be exact, it says African, doesn’t it? (Not African-American.) 2. Whatever the technical name was, people called it Kenya.


9 posted on 07/18/2015 1:10:35 PM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: gorush
Obama supplied an abstracted copy of his birth certificate.

A birth abstract, as a legal document, is a computer summary of the information related to the birth of the subject.

An extracted copy of a birth certificate is the official, legally valid photo copy of the original, signed by doctor, parents and witnessed, official long form document with baby foot print on back

An abstracted copy may consist of information extracted from multiple sources and some information, such as parental information on an abstract may be unavailable, excluded or pulled from sources other than the official extracted (i.e.) birth certificate.

Most abstracts are unacceptable for passports and other official purposes.

If some one wanted to provide a forged birth certificate, doing so with what is officially an abstracted Certificate of Birth would limit criminal and civil liability.

This is because the abstracted copy of a birth certificate is not not an official copy of the original extracted Birth Certificate document, nor is valid for proof of birth for most official government or or other legal purposes.

As such, an abstracted copy of a birth certificate may legally omit information contained on the official extracted copy of the birth certificate as well as legally incorporating information not listed on the official extracted copy of the birth certificate but drawn from other sources, both public and private. This source of added information can potentially be as unofficial as an unverified verbal statement of fact from the person requesting the abstracted document.

Which is why one cannot use abstracted copies of a birth certificate to get a passport, drivers license or be used for official or legal identification purposes.

Interestingly, the document supplied as Obama’s abstracted birth certificate document is not in the form a computer print out as is common for an abstracted copy, but instead is in the format of an official Extracted Birth certificate photo copy of of the original birth records

Since the document supplied by the White House Staff is presented as meeting the legal qualifications of abstracted birth certificate copy as opposed to purporting it to be a legally valid, officially certified extracted photo copy it may legally contain additions or deletions not found on the original birth document in the archives.

Since no one has officially claimed that the internet published Obama Birth Certificate is an official, legally valid, extracted copy, ( in fact they have carefully publicly disclosed that the Obama Birth Certificate presented is,in fact, nothing more than an unofficial abstracted copy ) there is legal wiggle room to argue that there was no controlling legal authority that can bring charges of fraud or forgery against the President or anyone involved in the manufacture, drafting, production or publishing of the document.

Assuming there was an intent to mislead, it can be argued that it was done in such a way that the legal of the document was couched using very cleverly lawyered terminology to give the impression of an official, legally valid document while at the same time providing plausible legal deniability for any downstream charges of fraud or forgery and to minimize any formal criminal liability if the published document was ever scrutinized and legally challenged as to it's validity

20 posted on 07/18/2015 2:09:45 PM PDT by rdcbn (imee)
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To: gorush

I can answer all these questions about the birth certificate with...

You are a racist, nannie-nannie-boo-boo.


23 posted on 07/18/2015 3:09:50 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator (American Jobs for American Workers)
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To: gorush

I have a 1960 Webster’s dictionary with a gazetteer. It lists Kenya (”formerly East Africa Protectorate”).


25 posted on 07/18/2015 4:05:04 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: gorush

Bookmark


44 posted on 07/20/2015 5:38:36 AM PDT by southland ( I have faith in the creator Republicans freed the slaves. Acts 4:12)
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To: gorush

Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecolgical Hospital has been the name since the 1930s.

Look at the footnote on the bottom of this page from a 1960 medical journal

http://journals.lww.com/greenjournal/Citation/1960/16020/Hypnosis_in_Obstetrics_and_Gynecology_.15.aspx


59 posted on 07/21/2015 11:43:26 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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