While I’m not thinking it was particularly wise to say it...getting captured is not an achievement.
While not an achievement, getting shot down and becoming a POW is not a subject for mockery, no matter what his politics.
...getting captured is not an achievement.
But sometimes it’s unavoidable.
Wow! You know that’s actually true! Well said, lepton.
McCain has ridden high and been paid off well for that event in his life, and he has flogged it to enrich himself to some extent.
I'm not defending McShame but POWs in general. Have you considered that surviving captivity might be an achievement?
“While I’m not thinking it was particularly wise to say it...getting captured is not an achievement.”
I don’t care for most of McCain’s politics for sure. And, I agree that getting captured is no an achievement. But, what is an achievement and what McCain did that was honorable and brave is the way he conducted himself during his six years in captivity. That was very much an achievement. Trump really stepped in it this time.
I have come to responding to threads that praise or include our "heroes" (military, the slain recruiters f'rinstance) with a clarification
Our military is volunteer
Heroes are someone that DO something amazing ... falling on a grenade, dragging a fallen warrior back under heavy enemy fire .... that sort of thing
And I believe our volunteers should get as much repect as a hero, though not for the same reason
Our military sat down at the kitchen table with mom and dad and said they wanted to be a Marine or soldier or pilot or whatever
Mom and dad, being a little more aware than their 17 yr old pimply face probably didn't want to hear this and may have made an attempt to talk him or her out of it .... but he would have none of it ...
HE OR SHE HAD MADE UP THEIR MIND
THEY MADE UP THEIR OWN MIND
THEY ACTUALLY THOUGHT ABOUT IT BEFORE ENLISTING
Heroes usually are forced into a situation and many stories are told about NOT THINKING ASBOUT WHAT THEY WERE DOING
THAT'S why I've started commenting on our volunteers
If he had to pay for all the planes he crashed.. What is it. Five?
Trump owns that many .. He could spot him a loan.
McCain has long been suspected of suffering from an America hating brand of Stockholm sydrome and collusion with his captives, the illegals. Moderate republicans invariably treat islamists with kid gloves, same islamists that arab abroad now accuse us of grooming to be turned into ISIS terrorists attacking Syria. Our inability to correct illegals emboldens them and turns them to terrorism
No, but strapping yourself into a high performance fighter bomber, launching off a pitching aircraft carrier deck, and flying through deadly anti aircraft fire again, again, and again is quite an achievement. Have you ever tried it?
Now, go sit in a corner and say 500 times: I said something really stupid. Trump did as well.
Perhaps McCain was just unlucky. Seem to recall an incident on the deck of the USS Forrestal with McCain in the cockpit when a missile on his fighter accidentally lit off and caused heavy casualties and damage. If my recollection is in error I will gladly be corrected.
I guess the bombastic one would disagree with you...as he back tracks...I am loving this...
At a press availability following his remarks, Trump denied saying that McCain isn’t a war hero and said, “If somebody’s a prisoner, I consider them a war hero.”
You don’t have to like McCain. You absolutely do have to respect him for his service to the United States. He’s a war hero due to how he conducted himself from the time he was captured to the time he was released.
Trump was handed millions of dollars from Daddy. He has never served one day of hard work his entire life. He is a joke for stating what he did. That rich, old, douche should be taken behind one of his palaces and beaten by a couple of marines. I have absolutely no repect for this animal.