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To: bert; C. Edmund Wright; central_va; odds; 2ndDivisionVet
Many conservatives confuse business and politics. They believe that a political global union is a goal of the evil ones

Good comment, let me try to break it down so you understand where I'm coming from.

First: Yes, I do believe there are "evil ones", some here, mostly abroad, who desire some form of global political authority. They are not, mostly, businessmen.

Second, I am aware that some, perhaps most, of global economic integration has arisen spontaneously in response to the unprecedented long pause in global war and to innovative communication technologies.

Third, I believe that it is ahistorical and therefore unlikely for the global economic activity to continue at its present level without an attempt by a state or group of states to "capture" increasing advantage. In historical terms, this usually means battle fleets and large armies, but technology may have changed this, to some degree.

Fourth, I believe that other nations, especially China and Russia, but also the lesser ones like Brazil and India are raising their young with acute national consciousness while we are not. Most of the world will never be Singapore, or Hong Kong.

Fifth, I believe that as a result of 1-4 the standard of living and future prospects of many of our people is in decline, and that measures to reverse the decline are warranted.

While I do not regard America as a single celled organism, like an amoeba, I do not accept the view that we are an arbitrarily defined herd of 300 million unrelated individuals who for historical reasons live within certain GPS coordinates of no particular significance, and whose future prospects are rightly determined by competition from foreigners - no matter how much wealth is thereby generated.

64 posted on 07/18/2015 7:28:25 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.)
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To: Jim Noble

I agree with a lot of what you said, but I do not agree that points 1+2+3+4= point 5. It’s not that linear, but thanks for thoughtful response.


66 posted on 07/18/2015 7:30:50 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again)
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To: Jim Noble

>>>”Fourth, I believe that other nations, especially China and Russia, but also the lesser ones like Brazil and India are raising their young with acute national consciousness while we are not. Most of the world will never be Singapore, or Hong Kong.”<<<

The U.S. has already had a head-start decades ago, and penetrated many markets; whether it was due to nationalistic sentiments I don’t know.

Though the U.S. will increasingly get competition, in the business arena at least - the countries you’ve cited have learned from the U.S.

Regarding your last paragraph:

The U.S. is not “a single celled organism” .. or, “an arbitrarily defined herd of 300 million unrelated individuals who for historical reasons live within certain GPS coordinates of no particular significance, and whose future prospects are rightly determined by competition from foreigners.”

But, the U.S. is dependent on foreign, hence, a Global ‘network’ to be able to do business outside USA. Politics is an inherent part of that process.


68 posted on 07/18/2015 8:21:29 AM PDT by odds
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