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Jeb Bush girds for debate smackdown with Donald Trump
politico.com ^ | Alex Isenstadt

Posted on 07/16/2015 9:17:29 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

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"Jeb Bush girds
for debate smackdown
with Donald Trump...."


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21 posted on 07/16/2015 9:35:17 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: RoosterRedux

El Jebito vs. The Donald

I have never watched anything on Pay-Per-View, but I would pay to watch that!


22 posted on 07/16/2015 9:35:37 AM PDT by Polyxene (Out of the depths I have cried to Thee, O Lord; Lord, hear my voice.)
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To: hosepipe
I wonder about Huckabee. His campaign was gaining traction and then the puppetmasters declared that McCain was so far ahead that Huckabee could never catch him. If that had played out, McCain might have gone crazy (think Howard Dean) before the nomination, and Huckabee would've had it.

Huckabee owes the party elite NOTHING. And from his TV time, he knows how to work a crowd.

23 posted on 07/16/2015 9:37:06 AM PDT by grania
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Jeb will get crucified by Trump.

This is a debate where Trump will get, maybe, 30 seconds to deliver his message. Trump has never delivered anything in 30 seconds. He will look ridiculous and while he's fumbling around trying to make a point and nail Jeb to the cross I expect Ted Cruz to be slicing him, and the other candidates, like a surgeon.

24 posted on 07/16/2015 9:37:55 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: 1Old Pro

Maybe Jeb can arrange for a timely illness ?


25 posted on 07/16/2015 9:40:40 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: DoodleDawg

Cruz will not be slicing up Trump, or vice versa, they will both go after little Jebbie who needs to be drummed out of the race early.


26 posted on 07/16/2015 9:42:08 AM PDT by HerrBlucher ("We should thank God for beer and burgundy by not drinking too much of them." GK Chesterton)
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To: DoodleDawg
I have been pondering that point--can Trump be concise--and think that just because he speaks in a rambling style doesn't mean that he can't also be concise. I have seen him (and heard him) in TV interview and call ins where he has answered briefly and concisely.

That said, he still may blow the debate because of a lack of specifics. We'll just have to wait and see.

27 posted on 07/16/2015 9:42:09 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (WSC: The truth is incontrovertible; malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end...)
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To: DoodleDawg

Cruz is a brilliant debater


28 posted on 07/16/2015 9:42:10 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: hosepipe

The interesting thing to watch,I think, is the Cspan forum that preempted Fox. Cruz is in now and pretty much everyone but bush and trump are in Cspan. It will probably grow but 1 of the hosting News Paper is from Iowa and bush is losing Iowa so bad he has run for the hills.
I speculate that Trump will certainly go. He isn’t afaid of a bear much less a free broadcast of his popular views.
The Cspan format is much more informative allowing 5 minute answers and flowing exchanges.
Fox mess up bad with the subjective exclusion of wonderful candidates who desearve to be heard.


29 posted on 07/16/2015 9:42:32 AM PDT by WENDLE
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To: ZULU

ROFL Good one =)


30 posted on 07/16/2015 9:45:00 AM PDT by Patriot Babe
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To: ZULU

Jeb Bush is the single worse candidate in this race. He absoulutely cannot be allowed to win.


31 posted on 07/16/2015 9:46:21 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: HerrBlucher
Cruz will not be slicing up Trump, or vice versa, they will both go after little Jebbie who needs to be drummed out of the race early.

Cruz can take Bush at any time and he knows it. But take out Bush now and his support goes to Christie or Graham or some other establishment suit. What he needs to do is get all the fringe candidates like Trump and Perry and Carson out of the way so that he can consolidate conservative support behind him. In a heads up race, mano y mano, Bush vs. Cruz then Bush loses. In a three or four way race with Bush and Walker and Trump and Cruz then Bush wins. Cruz is bright enough to know that.

32 posted on 07/16/2015 9:47:30 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: exit82

Looks like we have. However, Thank God Trump nor Cruz will be needing him nor a teleprompter. =)


33 posted on 07/16/2015 9:47:36 AM PDT by Patriot Babe
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To: RJS1950
Trump needs to toss the shrub a piece of chalk and tell him to draw a circle to mark the spot on the stage where he wants his nuts to land when Trump neuters him.


34 posted on 07/16/2015 9:48:23 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: RoosterRedux
I have been pondering that point--can Trump be concise--and think that just because he speaks in a rambling style doesn't mean that he can't also be concise.

When has he ever shown it? In all his speeches and all his interviews he has rambled and bragged and made wild promises, generally over the course of a few minutes. What passes for debates in our presidential election cycle are like nothing he's ever done before. He will be on stage facing an audience, a sizeable percentage of who don't think he has the gravitas to be president, and have to deliver a clear, concise message in a short period of time. I don't think he can do it. I fully expect Trump will demonstrate that lack of stature for the office for all to see. And I fully expect Ted Cruz to blow the doors off the place. And come August 7 then I think you'll see Trumps numbers dropping and Ted Cruzs numbers shooting up.

35 posted on 07/16/2015 9:52:54 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Gaffer

Yes, under Bush’s podium...


36 posted on 07/16/2015 9:55:04 AM PDT by navyguy (The National Reset Button is pushed with the trigger finger.)
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To: RoosterRedux

When Trump gets through with him, Jeb will be able to audition as a coloratura with the Met.


37 posted on 07/16/2015 9:56:11 AM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: DoodleDawg

Cruz will not be slicing up Trump. Why would Cruz go through the trouble of calling a meeting with Trump, and why would Trump accept, if they were political enemies? Also, Cruz was out there loudly defending Trump regarding his remarks about illegal immigration. That was very risky and not the actions of a man who is out to derail Trump’s candidacy.


38 posted on 07/16/2015 9:57:05 AM PDT by HerrBlucher ("We should thank God for beer and burgundy by not drinking too much of them." GK Chesterton)
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To: DoodleDawg
You may be correct, but Trump might hold his own.

As a former New Yorker, I've seen him in many, MANY interviews over the years and he can be brief when he has to.

I wouldn't predict with any certainly that he will go one way or another in the debates.

It will be interesting to see how his stage presents compares to other candidates. I don't remember seeing him actually share the stage with anyone else.

39 posted on 07/16/2015 9:57:43 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (WSC: The truth is incontrovertible; malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end...)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Cruz is a brilliant debater

He is. And as someone who debated in high school I can tell you that it's stressful enough with only a win or loss on the board. August 6 will be make-or-break for easily half the candidates on the stage and someone like Cruz, with his bacground and experience, will shine. Most of the rest will not. They will have their own "oops" moment like Perry did. Or they'll ramble and stumble and not get their message out. But Cruz will excel.

40 posted on 07/16/2015 9:58:04 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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